View Full Version : How Many CEASE & DESITS do you get before you get sued for broadcasting ?

Power Plant Records
05-23-2016, 07:20 PM
I own a small record shop in a small town and I was told that I could play songs in my shop as long as i have the intent to sell them. I live stream video from my shop from time to time with music playing in the back ground.....I would assume that would still fall under the "intent to sell" statute correct? If I am Violating any Copy write laws, how many Cease and Desists do they issue before legal action?

05-23-2016, 08:20 PM
Sounds like you're playing with fire.

05-24-2016, 02:06 AM
Definitely not a good idea to continue ....

Power Plant Records
05-24-2016, 07:44 PM
Sorry I should have explained more....i just edited the post.

05-24-2016, 08:16 PM
I own a small record shop in a small town and I was told that I could play songs in my shop as long as i have the intent to sell themI believe that statement is not true. You play a song, you pay the royalties.

05-25-2016, 11:03 AM
No matter where you are you still need licence. In uk you need 2. ppl and prs licence. If you don.t have and you get caught you will lose all eq and a big fine and maybe prison

Brutish Sailor
05-30-2016, 07:25 PM
The answer is none. They can sue you with no cease and desist issued.

A cease and Desist order is more a less a courtecy, or forceful back-up in court so that a broadcaster wouldnt be able to hide behind "ignorance/unawareness" and not get sued as an illegal "money losing commercial entity." and unless you got that 503C (in the US) non-profit status, dont claim "non-profit", your just a "money losing commercial entity."


In essence "they" being music producer, or lable representing the artist, can claim that you redistributed an intelectual property with the intent to entertain without their consent and theirfore impacted their profiting.

Think about it.

If you made a movie, and someone redistributed it to a million friends via facebook, would you care if a cease and desist order was issued? HELL NO, you would be screaming ,"Where is my money to cover the 33% revinue lost from movie theater goers ?/!"

06-05-2016, 09:16 PM
Yes. I learned a long time ago, to play nice with the licensing bodies. There are perks if you do though, you can apply to publishing companies for access to their content. I get access to MPE and get regular updates from Sony, Universal, Warner, et al. If you are going to run a radio station and you are not in it for the music, why bother? You are actually providing a very meager donation to the access that it gives you as well as legitimacy.

They will find you and they will shut you down. It doesn't matter what you play, indie or not there is a mechanical license that you still have to pay just to replay their content. It is a license from the days of piano rolls. You had to pay royalties to physically reproduce or replay the content. Now even a ringtone of content is covered under this license.

If you want to play you have to pay.