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James
06-08-2008, 01:27 AM
I have not heard a proper answer to this question yet. What will happen to all the analog transmitters once everyone is digital? Do they just go silent and sit to rust? will someone use them or will there be a use for them in the future?

James
06-08-2008, 01:27 AM
I have not heard a proper answer to this question yet. What will happen to all the analog transmitters once everyone is digital? Do they just go silent and sit to rust? will someone use them or will there be a use for them in the future?

James
06-08-2008, 03:22 AM
Once everything is digital all the analog transmitters will go the way of the dinosaur. Analog transmitters will most likely end up on eBay or in the junk. Course I think this could be an opportunity. Much as Shortwave is still around, analog might be relegated to a new subculture...a Lowtech Arena for hobbyists to expand in.

We'll just have to see what develops!

I think you will see most of them on ebay ;) and i totally agree with it being the new "hobbyists" way.
You make really good points.

How much do you reacon they will be? I reacon aus will illegalize it :(

James
06-08-2008, 03:22 AM
Once everything is digital all the analog transmitters will go the way of the dinosaur. Analog transmitters will most likely end up on eBay or in the junk. Course I think this could be an opportunity. Much as Shortwave is still around, analog might be relegated to a new subculture...a Lowtech Arena for hobbyists to expand in.

We'll just have to see what develops!

I think you will see most of them on ebay ;) and i totally agree with it being the new "hobbyists" way.
You make really good points.

How much do you reacon they will be? I reacon aus will illegalize it :(

MADcHATTER
06-08-2008, 03:22 AM
Once everything is digital all the analog transmitters will go the way of the dinosaur. Analog transmitters will most likely end up on eBay or in the junk. Course I think this could be an opportunity. Much as Shortwave is still around, analog might be relegated to a new subculture...a Lowtech Arena for hobbyists to expand in.

We'll just have to see what develops!

MADcHATTER
06-08-2008, 03:22 AM
Once everything is digital all the analog transmitters will go the way of the dinosaur. Analog transmitters will most likely end up on eBay or in the junk. Course I think this could be an opportunity. Much as Shortwave is still around, analog might be relegated to a new subculture...a Lowtech Arena for hobbyists to expand in.

We'll just have to see what develops!

Mott Productions
06-08-2008, 03:37 AM
you make a good point. They may still be around.

-Patrick

Mott Productions
06-08-2008, 03:37 AM
you make a good point. They may still be around.

-Patrick

boxovoices
08-03-2008, 02:27 AM
When digital comes in everyone will able to access it. It will be as simple as going down to the post office, filling in an application, paying a license fee and TA DA! You're now a digital broadcaster! I kid you not. Digital radio is going to be the worst thing to happen to the industry. Idependant and smaller broadcasters will fold because they won't be able to compete with the huge networks. When DR comes into effect in Oz every commercial and community license holder will be given 6 digital channels or the option of two high bitrate channels and 6 low bitrate channels. It's going to completely screw the industry format-wise. There will be too many stations competing for a very small advertising revenue pool, and the small fish will die. Just my two cents :retard:

radiostar
09-15-2008, 11:01 AM
I think Digital Radio an Australia will be a flop.If people have perfectly good stereo systems they are not going to throw them out just to go Digital But if it does take off I think AMradio will disappear but FM radio will always be with us. And they tell us Digital radio gives us clearer sound, what,s wrong with F.M.stereo sound nothing.

James
09-19-2008, 02:28 AM
Apparently, we are getting hd radio and digital radio next year! Yes its a bit behind the US but in Sydney, they are currently testing it. Cant wait to see that and try it out!

Johnnie
09-19-2008, 07:23 PM
Digital Radio in the UK has completely failed.

Mainly because 98% of UK stereo stations use a 128kb/s audio codec, using MP2 technology... because of this, the audio received is lower quality than FM, so basically, no one is interested.

And it's now too late, if they update the codecs, then everyone will have to buy a new DAB receiver. It just seems stupid to me that they built this system on software that was already outdated before it was launched.

Either way, the government over here are trying to save DAB, despite countless major broadcasters pulling out completely

Exozito
11-10-2008, 12:52 PM
Analog is here to stay...for now. Nowadays, FM radio receivers are relatively cheap and last for quite a number of years. FM radio can also reach more listeners than internet radio at the moment. Unless someone invents a method to provide the whole state with Wi-Fi access, I doubt that internet radio would succeed analog radio anytime soon. Major radio stations usually broadcast in both formats.

jkemr
11-10-2008, 01:35 PM
FM radio can also reach more listeners than internet radio at the moment.

Internet radio is worldwide fm is not...

Exozito
11-10-2008, 01:47 PM
I mean, internet radio is more limited in the number of listener slots than high-powered FM transmissions. Thus FM gets many listeners more easily although the listeners are from the local area where the FM station is located. FM radio receivers are also cheaper than having an internet connection.

jkemr
11-10-2008, 02:14 PM
Analog is not being used in the uk full stop from jan.2010 everything is going digital -- tv & radio so to say analog will be around for abit your right :) a year left in the uk

DirtySouthRadio
11-10-2008, 10:25 PM
WHAT I HAVE HEARD IS THAT THE ANALOG IS GOING TO BE USED FOR HI FI WIFI DO A SEARCH ON GOGGLE ABOUT WIMAX THIS JUST 1 THING ITS GOING TO BE INTERNET WHERE EVER U CAN GET A PHONE SIGNAL U HAVE HI SPEED INTERNET

http://searchtelecom.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid103_gci929334,00.html

Ruby Tuesday
11-10-2008, 11:20 PM
I mean, internet radio is more limited in the number of listener slots than high-powered FM transmissions. Thus FM gets many listeners more easily although the listeners are from the local area where the FM station is located. FM radio receivers are also cheaper than having an internet connection.
This thread is about digital radio, not internet radio.

jkemr
11-11-2008, 07:09 AM
Can digital radio pick up internet radio??

Ruby Tuesday
11-11-2008, 11:51 AM
Can digital radio pick up internet radio??
No. It's not internet related. It's the same principle as digital television.

Johnnie
11-11-2008, 05:55 PM
Analog is not being used in the uk full stop from jan.2010 everything is going digital -- tv & radio so to say analog will be around for abit your right :) a year left in the uk

Actually the digital switchover in the UK is only for television, and it will finish in 2012 (or 2013 in the Channel Islands :P)

Currently, the UK has no dates for a fully digital radio service, simply because DAB has, as of recently, more or less failed in the UK.

jkemr
11-11-2008, 09:07 PM
Actually the digital switchover in the UK is only for television, and it will finish in 2012 (or 2013 in the Channel Islands :P)

Currently, the UK has no dates for a fully digital radio service, simply because DAB has, as of recently, more or less failed in the UK.

What the Dab radio as no big sales in the uk wow i would of thought everyone would of got one as everyone like to get the new thing if you know what i mean :) Thanks JK

Blazin 97
11-30-2008, 03:46 PM
The change is starting right now in the US, because all tv stations have to be digital by February 2009, not on February 2009. It wasn't really a big deal though becuase most stations were already digital. A few low budget spanish channels were the only channels in my area that were still in 100% analog.

carlwelden
11-30-2008, 05:55 PM
Actually the digital switchover in the UK is only for television, and it will finish in 2012 (or 2013 in the Channel Islands :P)

Currently, the UK has no dates for a fully digital radio service, simply because DAB has, as of recently, more or less failed in the UK.

Y'all ought to watch this: "Get set for digital (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKt7AJLIFL0)" video ad with Max Headroom. Prophetic.

There's a bunch of them on YouTube. I cracked up atTHIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bOJaRXSNAI) shorter one.

Matt Frewer, still as brilliant as ever.

WayneOwens
12-01-2008, 03:48 AM
We actually air a PSA from the FCC on our station telling listeners to prepare for the digital TV Transition in the US by 2.09, and honestly, when hearing about the DAB not switching over the Digital and IBOC Radio, I applaud them, I think HD Radio is the worst thing to ever come to the USA. It is a complete waste of time and it costs more money to upgrade but as one of you said earlier, the big networks can afford it, while the smaller guys cannot, and that makes it completely unfair to people like us because of the simple fact there are people that would rather listen to a community broadcast than some big fancy ass network.

And to be in all honesty here, if it were required to upgrade to HD Radio, I would tell the FCC to go fuck themselves literally, because it takes away from the whole point of radio, but from what I'm hearing the FCC is killing radio as well as the big markets like Clear Channel, they are doing it to themselves, and quite frankly, Internet Radio will come out on top over AM, FM, and Satellite Radio, it doesn't matter how you look at it, I know of quite a few stations that get thousands of listeners on a daily basis when there are stations in the listeners market, that they dont care to listen to because of the corporate bullshit in the industry nowadays.

And quite frankly, I even got an email from a woman in Rhode Island, a few months ago that said she would rather listen to my station than some of the stations in the area she lives and works in because of the plain and simple fact, I don't deliver BS, I deliver music, tons of it, with ads that are relevant to her and the rest of my listeners, not these big corporate ads like CBS, and Clear Channel, yes I may play some of those ads when I can find them on YouTube abd dub them, but it is relatively rare that I ever do, because there are other things our listeners care about than TV and political bs, hell I admit, I ran John McCain ads all through the election, I didn't support Obama, and until he can prove me wrong, I never will....

My listeners stayed tuned in because they probably thought the same way i did, and i thank them for tuning in....hell if it weren't for the fact I give my listeners what they wanted when they wanted, I wouldn't have half of them to this day, and to be honest, I'm thankful for every listeners that tunes into my stream....AM, FM, and Satellite, they aren't worried about their listeners counts, they are only worried about one thing, and that is the MONEY. That's all they've ever been worried about....me, yes I want to get into the terrestrial field, but i won't be worried about the money.

I have ranted long enough, but the only reason i ranted like this is because i worked in the terrestrial industry for a short span, and i saw how the Clear Channel pricks work, and they only worry about their paycheck and their egos....I was let go because of money and the fact they moved the station to a different format, different metro and the whole nine yards...

There is only one station I will listen to because at least they dont worry about the money, or so it seems to me....and i listen to my station of course, so all I can say, BURN AM,FM,SATELLITE, BURN!!!!!!!!

Internet is the wave of the future but a lot of the assholes that dont work in this industry haven't figured it out, and even some of the talent i know and respect don't know it either, and that is their downfall

GKIye
12-03-2008, 02:44 AM
Well .. the future is already "Todays" history
several compagnies are selling already wireless radio receivers who can be used with WiFi
for an example see this link :
http://www.roku.com/products_soundbridge.php
this knowledge has been first introduced during 2002 and an Australian compagny Torian launched their type "the InFusion portable" in November 2006

Unless someone invents a method to provide the whole state with Wi-Fi access, I doubt that internet radio would succeed analog radio

Concerning DAB broadcasting ... I think this way of making radio gonna have a huge cost to the owners
I know some former projects who made DAB transmissions at a transmission center at Germany.
so operational the content to broadcast was streamed by a special fiber cable to that center ..
In general the coverage of the station is bigger in distance, in their case they covered almost the complete West-European aria
however that project "died" after some time because the cost of broadcasting 1 hour radio was similar to the Monthly cost of a licensed FM station .. so they started an internetradio project ...

I have 2 things to consider :
- first .. Today DAB radio gives Me the idea of the way they made in earlier days SW aka Shortwave radio .. "not about the quality" .. but because of the cost .. SW those days was also rent by projects to broadcast during a specific amount of time their broadcasts .. for example every evening 1 or 2 hours or each weekend 1 hour etc etc
- secondly .. in fact internetradio is already the Today way of streaming complete digital content, in fact no hardware is needed ... everything can be done by software

I understand that this ain't the opinion of everybody .. but all this above is my view to this matter
Lets say .. more to come into the future

DirtySouthRadio
12-03-2008, 03:07 PM
well i can go research it google and bought alot of the antalog space and they are going to be offering hire speed cable and i thing called maxfi witch will be where ever u can get a phone singal u will have maxfi the speed of cable

thant mean that device above would work in your car if u have a 12 v converter to convert the power to 12 v