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    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeHD View Post
    There has been a lot of talk since the demise of SWcast that Loud City has a monopoly on Licensing fees for ASCAP, BMI, SASAC, Sound Exchange, etc. if you are using Shoutcast or Icecast.
    If there was a monopoly, then Marvin or anyone else wouldn't be able to do this. I founded LoudCity because I was a customer of SWCast and there were a lot of indications they were not on the level. It turns out that was true.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlternativeHD View Post
    They swing broadcasters over to their LoudCaster service so they make both the Stream Hosting fee and the Licensing fee. They have closed new sign ups for broadcasters using their own Stream Hosts, resulting in many pulling the plug on their stations. Many broadcasters want to use their hosts because of pricing, Centovacast control panel, etc.
    I've got no problems with opinions or competition, but you are wrong about both businesses, making false assumptions and misplacing blame.

    We're not responsible for people closing down their stations. That's a decision people made on their own amongst several alteratives to choose from. Also when we put a hold on signups, the activity from SWCast had nearly died down, so I don't that many people had chosen to go dark.

    If you've been on the LoudCity or Spacial forums, then you know math and timing is the reason why things happened the way they did.

    Though we're taking new customers again, we were at capacity with the TLH hurdle under the current SoundExchange deal. The next deal up the chain comes with a $25K annual minimum. Besides the considerable hike, you have to wait until January to change agreements.

    Streaming over the current deal would have meant a sharp price increase for all current broadcasters, including yourself. Possibly as high as 3 cents per listening hour. Do you want to pay $150 per month to broadcast only 5,000 hours? We protected current customers, including yourself, by halting signups, in addition to all the work we put in traveling to Congress several times assisting with lobbying campaigns for webcasters, which thousands of broadcasters had co-signed during the last negotiation.

    As for Loudcaster, it's a totally separate company from LoudCity. Loudcaster is not dependent on LoudCity's licensing. LoudCity gains nothing when Loudcaster gets a customer.

    Loudcaster exists because over the years many new broadcasters have abandoned the activity shorty after starting because it is too complicated for them. They buy software from party A, hosting from party B, and they have no idea how to put it together, and hey get little or no help from those parties connecting the pieces. There are people out there that want all the technology abstracted so they can reach an audience in the fewest possible steps. Loudcaster is for those people and it's a response to market demand.

    Marvin, sorry for getting in the way, but that post was maligning and inaccurate, and needed a response.

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    Not a problem, Brandon. I founded StreamLicensing to give more room for broadcasters once SWCast went down and LoudCity was full. It took me three months longer to go live than I anticipated but here I am at last.

    I was Brandon's satisfied customer until going live with StreamLicensing. We are now competitors in a real sense of course, but I absolutely come with no ill will toward LoudCity or Loudcaster. I believe there is room for both of us. On several forums I've seen participants complaining about pricing and blaming the lack of competition for the price of this kind of service. The facts are bringing in all the competition in the world is not going to change the pricing structure. It is what it is and my hat is off to Brandon for the work he has done over the years and for keeping the price down where someone just getting started as an Internet broadcaster, with little to no funding, can actually afford to broadcast legally.

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    Stream licensing in Europe is so much easier, simpler and broadcaster friendly.

    RIAA is doing everything it can to kill the streaming industry in the United States - if something is not done very soon - they will be able to achieve their goal.

    And that will be a huge loss for every one.

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    hay i can help you with promoting let me know ill take months or two for free with helping

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    hope i did it in the right spot saint http://forums.winamp.com/showthread....13#post2798713

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    Personally I am a customer of both companies. Kudos to Marvin for a great service that allows me to run ads in my stream.

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    Here's my landing page Kinda proud of it. http://streamlicensing.com/stations/...o/arplayer.htm
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    Help us support charities and get your streaming for pennies a year.
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    I have joined Stream Licensing...you should check them out too!
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    I myself have used the SMF forums since 2009.

    I'm not an expert in coding but can ( and am willing to ) help where I can. Even if just pointing a person in the right direction such as graphics etc.
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    Hello,

    I have to say, I've been with StreamLicensing for aa while now, and it's been a real pleasure to be a part of their service. Highly recommend SL.
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