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    Radionomy

    Does anyone have any idea what's going on at Radionomy with the new royalty rates?
    They must be affected one way or another?

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    For the few weeks I've been signed up, it looks like business as usual. I was looking at them as an alternative licensed platform to broadcast, but the service is horrible.


    They seem to have great difficulty in letting me know my stream IP URL, Port number, and password for putting into SAM, for live broadcasting. Before getting this info, you are expected to fill out pages and pages of clocks, plans, boxes, and so forth, which I've tried, and still get this weird Guid and API number which means nothing.


    I've left feedback on their board, telling them that I expect to see this information after TWO CLICKS. Failing that, I couldn't be bothered.

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    They seem to have great difficulty in letting me know my stream IP URL, Port number, and password for putting into SAM, for live broadcasting. Before getting this info, you are expected to fill out pages and pages of clocks, plans, boxes, and so forth, which I've tried, and still get this weird Guid and API number which means nothing.
    I had heard from several other users how Radionomy expected you to jump through several hoops before they would let you broadcast this just confirms it. You have to achieve certain listener figure targets within a fixed period...Otherwise they shut your station down.

    Won't be signing up to Radionomy anytime soon that's for certain. Besides I don't like Internet radio that carries adverts I listen to Internet radio to get away from Ad's on the "Mainstream" stations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJUser View Post
    You have to achieve certain listener figure targets within a fixed period...Otherwise they shut your station down.

    I knew that, but though it turned me off at first, I thought if I could sign up within a few minutes, get my stream info, hook it up to sam then I should be fine. My way of playing them was if they deleted my station, I would have just opened up another account. (for example user000001 user000002 user000003 and so forth)


    I would have had their radio page coded into my own website, so if the station was deleted, I would have opened a new account, quickly recoded my webpage, and had the station up and running again within a few minutes - well that's at least what I thought anyway.


    But yeah, now knowing how much work one has to put into getting a station started on Radionomy, I understand the blistering anger people feel when their stations are deleted out of the blue.


    When it comes to their manuals and help sections, their staff need to understand the TL DR principle. Their help section on planning could fill an old fashioned library of britannica encyclopedias. Okay, a little exaggerated, but that's the drift of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RDJUser View Post
    I had heard from several other users how Radionomy expected you to jump through several hoops before they would let you broadcast this just confirms it. You have to achieve certain listener figure targets within a fixed period...Otherwise they shut your station down.

    Won't be signing up to Radionomy anytime soon that's for certain. Besides I don't like Internet radio that carries adverts I listen to Internet radio to get away from Ad's on the "Mainstream" stations.
    Couldnt agree with you more. My buddy has given me constant feedback about them, saying that they harassed him with threats to increase his listener count, or be cut from the list of stations/ Owed cash, and at a cost higher than the average stream host. Their not some white knight noble charity, their a business, strait up. Just operating at the speed of a charity.

    Which brings me to my next two hot topics with these guys.....

    1) They own shoutcast, which they bought from AOL. Im curious to what happens to shoutcast if radionomy closes.

    2) What kind of manning do they have at this company? I heard big hitter billets (no one can forget where Rihanna came out to the radionomy booth), and had HUGE hopes for these guys (Dave and I both) and after that? Stagnant.... not just stagnant like the creative rush had stopped......it was stagnant in a way that says "years of nothing happening....". If their an organization that small, why not go community powered?

    what they should have done years ago, brief summery:

    a) The whole company sat down in a room for two days, and figured out how to reorganize the website. Changed the font, and the layout. hated the layout, the revision 1 before they went big was kinda cool, but it probably had legality issues.

    b) Make themselves not look sketchy. The whole operation kinda feels sketchy. their dialog to response feels sketchy. When I dont get responses to emails, I'm not saying their wrong, as some of my rants way-back-when made no sense (and some of my current ones do the same)

    ......BUT....(horrible way to start a statement).... I do get that same creepy vibe that I got when looking at SWCAST website. the kind of vibe that says, "We neglect the site, because were too busy raising money to read and respond to emails, emails from fans, curious people, ROYALTY AGENCYS, FEDERAL COURT, (ECT)." .........

    .... I just get that vibe from them. Even when they started trying to PR themselves by posting on this forum/other internet forums across the web. It was like ,"Here is our post to make it known were not evil. Do you hear us? Good. We want nothing to do with feedback or your forums in general, good day to you all"

    That was about the time the image of radionomy in my mind went from "the paladins of internet radio"...... to Randall Krause doing a rail off a big hairs neck in some gaudy 80's nightclub, and than screaming, with eyes bulging, "I OWN SHOUTCAST PUNKS! WOOOOOOWH!" with more shots coming to the table.....

    Just my general image of the company now-a-days.
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    Some people are born ignorant, some people have to really try and then there are those that are just trolls . . . .

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    Way to troll someone Trip .... I was asking YOU to backup your spurious claims about Radionomy.

    I shouldn't have to search Google for evidence about something you stated. I'm sure as hell not going to call Belgium to speak to Radionomy about the matter either!

    As it goes I have searched Google to do research on the subject and you know what? I can't find any evidence to back up your claims Strange that!!!

    If your going to spread malicious gossip about a company have the evidence to prove those things otherwise you could quite easily get yourself into all sorts of trouble.

    Now If you don't mind I have someone nice to go and help...


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    Trip - the first two are for stations - not webcasting services. Even Stream Licensing is not listed - so your saying Marvin has not paid either ?

    To understand information - you first must learn how to use it ;)

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    Yep, I can confirm by checking the links that Streamlicensing is on there.

    Webcaster STREAMLICENSING.COM

    But also have to wonder too if Radionomy were not paying license costs, how they are still going? Surely someone would have clammered down onto them by now.

    I would be interested in seeing why Radionomy are not paying licensing costs (if this is correct), and what is being done about it. Maybe because they are owned by Universal, universal are paying the fees on behalf of Radionomy on a third party basis?

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    I just started streaming through Radionomy after years of being with Live365. I was unsure at first and am still a little skeptical. However, I was able to sign up quickly. I just added one of their streams to the planner and was instantly giving the live URL and port. So far, so good. I am still trying to figure out the whole ad thing and how to trigger ads, but I have to say after going with them this last week, my listenership has been steady.

    The thing with Radionomy is that your live stream is cut off if there are no listeners. It will only reconnect when there is at least one listener, so you need to have the encoder set to automatically check every few seconds in order to stream live. So, I needed to upload my content to their servers so that when people connect, they are not listening to some random top 40 stream or something. So, I did that and things seem to be working. I have continual listeners for the last 48 hours.

    I really wanted to do something with streamlicensing, but their prices went up, too. So I thought I would try Radionomy and build my station more (and perhaps get some sponsorships). At my level, streamlicensing would cost me $700 a year and that was something I just couldn't pull at the moment.

    The problem that I see is trying to maintain the minimum listening hours with Radionomy so that my station isn't arbitrarily deleted. My station has never had that many listeners,. But, I've got 6 months to get to that point. We'll see.....

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