James Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hype, crap and the government seem to hold back webcasters paying less than what they do. That usually means that they are not making a profit, i could be wrong. Is it still possible to make a profit webcasting? Or do you have to play 20 ads in a row to get real $$? Your thoughts? Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qmr Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Hmmm What's profit? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 lol, exactly. Stations are now asking for donations, and to do what, provide music and entertainment that should be free or a profit to the person doing it! Its ludacris! We are like bums on a street. Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qmr Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I've seen stations asking for donations for some years now, you might aswell be subscription based if you need funds to run the station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted October 25, 2008 Author Share Posted October 25, 2008 Yeah, its sad. Hopefully this new law passed will do something. Im not updated on it as far as i know. Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixStream.net Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 It is ridiculous what royalties agencies charge webcasters. The irony is that if they actually reduced their prices then so many more stations would actually become licensed that the overall amount made from royalties would be higher - and in turn more people would see that webcasting can be profitable and you would get more good quality stations (which would lead to more income for artists). The key is to get record companies and artists to realise this and then they would put pressure on royalties agencies to recuce their prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Its pretty hard and it took a while to get rolling to where it is now, but we're able to cover our expenses and profit some too off of website ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkemr Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hi Guys the road i am going to go down in the new year is lieing In the new year I am going to try and turn the station into a business not just an hobby.. How you may ask OK ill tell you ... The big factor is lie your ass off to advertisers.. ie..(You only get 4 r 5 tune in NO you get 4 r 5 hundred tune in. No2. Your station as to be on air 24/7 no matter what even if its on auto dj in the small hours.. Thats not the only things you have to do but they are the big ones... IT WONT WORK?? I know it will work its working for a radio station in manchester now and thats what they do LIEEEEEE thanks JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THREETEN RADIO Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Well right or wrong I do have a donations link on my site. I run a hobby station at my expense. I have limited income but I choose to fund this hobby. A simple donation request is not a bad thing as it's up to the individual. I can also honestly say that in over 3 years I have NEVER received a donation for my station, either through that link or by any other means. Just shows that if people do not wish to donate, they will not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 We kind of don't have a choice. 800-1000 listeners peak every day costs a lot more than the average person's salary. Also, my for-profit company started it so it would seem kind of odd to not be trying to make a profit from it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkemr Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 If you get 800 to 1000 listeners you should have np makeing money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkemr Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 plus you use shoutcast ?? 3 tune in ?? good on you like i said lie and you just did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickSS Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 If you get 800 to 1000 listeners you should have np makeing money If you get 800 to 1000 listeners you need to be making money!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronsnet Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I can't imagine ever making money off of internet radio without those kind of solid numbers. It's easy to sell ads if you are a terrestrial station because you only have to go by the potential audience (since there is no real method of measuring listenership) unlike internet radio where big, hard numbers are required in order to even make a little bit of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 If you get 800 to 1000 listeners you need to be making money!! Well you could use donations, and I've seen some stations do it, but that is very risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySouthRadio Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 well as of last month my radio stats are 846.416 listeners for the month of sept 1st to oct first http://yp.shoutcast.com/ttsl.html i am number 144 out 10.000 station listed on shoutcast.com a few months ago i was at number 78 with 1.4 million listeners but since i lost my other 6 server due to the high cost bandwidth now i have 2 server left and them are my last to and i can hold 1020 listeners where when i had my 8 severs i was topping out at 1.700 listeners in the day time and no less then 600 any other time at first to me this think was a hobby but now its been 8 years and ive spent 125.000 dollars in keeping the station going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySouthRadio Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 If you get 800 to 1000 listeners you need to be making money!! yoo nick show me how and i will give u 30%% commission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpazzRadio Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I think it all depends on your 'business model' If you are trying to run a station as a business, then asking for donations can be looked at as shady. (And if you are getting 800-1000 peak listeners per day and not making any profit you need to work on marketing your advertising potential) If you are running as a hobby, then there is no issue with accepting or soliciting donations. PBS does it all the time. SpazzRadio.com Home of Absolute Rockz, Absolute Spazz, Always HOT Country, and Absolute Hitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 yoo nick show me how and i will give u 30%% commission Yea seriously. It is a very hard thing! Not easy to do even if you have 2,000 listeners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronsnet Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 well as of last month my radio stats are 846.416 listeners for the month of sept 1st to oct first http://yp.shoutcast.com/ttsl.html i am number 144 out 10.000 station listed on shoutcast.com a few months ago i was at number 78 with 1.4 million listeners but since i lost my other 6 server due to the high cost bandwidth now i have 2 server left and them are my last to and i can hold 1020 listeners where when i had my 8 severs i was topping out at 1.700 listeners in the day time and no less then 600 any other time at first to me this think was a hobby but now its been 8 years and ive spent 125.000 dollars in keeping the station going That's pretty impressive TLH considering your not even listed in itunes. It sounds like you have a good niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySouthRadio Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 im listed with my othere station on itunes real media wmp my othere site is difbet site same music www.thugzone.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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