tomupton Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Hi All, Ok a bit confused here.... The situation is i think ive found the dedicated server i have been looking for. The server comes with 4,000GB bandwidth per month. The question is.... How many listeners could i have one the server at any one time streaming at 96k? I dont want to exceed any bandwidth allowences etc. The server would also be running AutoDj to take that into consideration. Im asking this question, and someone explained to me the other day i would only require about 200GB per month to cope with 300 listeners at anyone time..... Regards Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoutcaststreaming Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 mickyD, you shouldn't hijack his thread to promote that. Tom, with 4,000 Gigs a month at 96k you can get about 195 concurrent listners. This assumes they will be listening 24/7 all month. In the real world, you wouldn't have them on all at the same the time. A good tool to figure this out is at: http://www.radiotoolbox.com/online_tools/bandwidth.php SCS - Dedicated Bandwidth Servers Shoutcast / Icecast / Windows Media Transcoding - Auto DJ - Mobile Radio - FLASH Players - Auto DJ Broadcasting World's Stream Host of the Month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 I personally would not recommend streaming on a server with a certain cap on bandwidth mainly because it could get out of control on you and you might accidentally find yourself with huge overage fees. Also, you wouldn't be getting your money's worth because I doubt the server would be filled 24/7 which means sometimes you could have more than 195 listeners tuned in. This is basically why unmetered is the standard for streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thread cleaned up, tom doesnt need any info on buying servers. He was asking a question Please read the rules and the bold line stated in this forums description Also thanks for all your answers, ive been wondering this too! Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2m Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Tom, As a start-up - I'm sure that 4000GB will be good for you. Is there an option to increase the bandwidth allowance above 4000GB if you see that you are nearing the upper limit ? Secondly, and as importantly, what data port does the server have ? 4000GB of bandwidth is good - but if the server is limited to 10Mbps output (the amount of data throughput per second) - then you'll experience buffering etc if you go above this. Might be worth asking the provider if the server is connected via a 100Mbps data port. Also, ask if the server is using shared bandwidth or dedicated. Again - dedicated is preferable - as shared bandwidth is exactly that - shared amongst a rack of servers. good luck and let us know how you get on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomupton Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thanks to everyone for there replies, i really do appreciate all of your honesty! The situation is, im still a bit confused. (Not too sure if that is due to me not fully waking up yet) But with 4000TB of data transfer, how many listeners a month could i get with that? The hosting would be through rapidswitch at the mo as they are offering a good deal on a entry level server, plus they seem to be doing very well with customer reviews etc..... Regards Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronsnet Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Thanks to everyone for there replies, i really do appreciate all of your honesty! The situation is, im still a bit confused. (Not too sure if that is due to me not fully waking up yet) But with 4000TB of data transfer, how many listeners a month could i get with that? The hosting would be through rapidswitch at the mo as they are offering a good deal on a entry level server, plus they seem to be doing very well with customer reviews etc..... Regards Tom The main question is...how many listeners do you anticipate being connected to your stream at once? And how many shoutcast streams at which bitrates do you plan on using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m2m Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Thanks to everyone for there replies, i really do appreciate all of your honesty! The situation is, im still a bit confused. (Not too sure if that is due to me not fully waking up yet) But with 4000TB of data transfer, how many listeners a month could i get with that? The hosting would be through rapidswitch at the mo as they are offering a good deal on a entry level server, plus they seem to be doing very well with customer reviews etc..... Regards Tom As previously mentioned - 4000GB of bandwidth provision per month would cater for approx 195 simultaneous (concurrent) listeners tuning in - if your stream was to be broadcast at 96kbps. For a new station, this is a pretty high number of listeners - and as mentioned - it is unlikely that all 195 slots would be occupied permanently 24/7 for the entire period of time. Our advice to customers is to start small and then expand as necessary - according to the demand. If the dedicated server package that you have in mind can be upgraded (i.e. bandwidth allowance increased) - then you really shouldn't have a problem with maxxing out. It is a balance between your budget, and demand. Start small - within your budget, and grow as and when you need. Better than spending a large amount immediately and then finding you aren't getting full use of the resource. The package I presume you are looking at - £45 + vat - seems good value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin 97 Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 As previously mentioned - 4000GB of bandwidth provision per month would cater for approx 195 simultaneous (concurrent) listeners tuning in - if your stream was to be broadcast at 96kbps. For a new station, this is a pretty high number of listeners - and as mentioned - it is unlikely that all 195 slots would be occupied permanently 24/7 for the entire period of time. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MixStream.net Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Tom, with 4,000 Gigs a month at 96k you can get about 195 concurrent listners. This assumes they will be listening 24/7 all month. In the real world, you wouldn't have them on all at the same the time. I'd rephrase that to say an 'average' of 195 listeners (although I worked it out to about 134 listeners using radiotoolbox calculator), you could peak well above that. The best way to check your bandwidth usage is to install MRTG and look at the bandwidth graphs - if they show an average of less than about 12Mbps then you are ok. Also, Rapidswitch have a very good control panel that tells you how much bandwidth you've used and gives a prediction for the month so you can check that - they also send out an email when you get to 75% of your allowance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickSS Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 some other useful tools and calcs here. http://shoutcast.mcproductions.eu/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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