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In Australia, there are some online stations starting to get some attraction to listeners. However, a lot of these stations are unknown, as they do not advertise themselves online, or are unlicensed (not paying royalties).

 

Some stations do however pay for royalty licences, but cannot get the listener base, as a) they can't afford to advertise, or b) can't use their station to their best quality due to lack of bandwidth, or cannot get Internet Radio DJs/Presenters.

 

If you are an Internet Radio Station owner, do you have these problems, and discuss the future of Webcasting, which is the new future of radio as we know it.

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My station does pay royalties through PPL-UK (Through the network we go through) that has an agreement (or arraingement) with the PPCA, but some stations are a hobby, and if they find a free stream server, they can stream their thing. But Community Radio stations may want to stream online as well. They need to pay the PPCA more money, unless they choose an International streamer.

 

My exact saying is that anyone can stream, as long as they are a part of a licenced station, or streaming for free, which makes them a hobby station.

 

It is not breaching Australian Law if they stream using servers outside Australia, BUT they could be asked to pay the country's royalties.

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They need to pay the PPCA more money, unless they choose an International streamer.

 

It is not breaching Australian Law if they stream using servers outside Australia

 

It actually depends on where the service originates. If the music is played in Australia and sent to a stream server in the UK then you are required by law to pay the Australian fees. If, however, your service is just a jukebox where the material is stored on a server in the UK and played from there, then yes, only the UK fees apply.

 

Incidentally, the law makes no distinction between a "hobby" station or a business, all have to pay the appropriate fee for using music.

 

You don't mention APRA/AMCOS???

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Thats the same way it goes into my country (Belgium)

If the music is played in Australia and sent to a stream server in the UK then you are required by law to pay the Australian fees. If, however, your service is just a jukebox where the material is stored on a server in the UK and played from there, then yes, only the UK fees apply.

The source where the stream is based makes that at that country royalties has to be paid

 

To my knowledge the UK has restrictions between streaming audio at the UK only and streaming worldwide

Is this the same in Australia ?

 

Concerning the royalties : In my country streaming audio has a difference between non-commercial and commercial projects

The restrictions about that are very simple .. untill 25 slots its a non commercial project .. above 25 slots its more likely that the project is commercial ... But if a project has more than 25 slots and is non-commercial .. it is accepted also .. so far in both cases there is no paid publicity (banners etc) .. Banners and redirect links to 3rd party websites are allowed so far they can be seen as "support only" to the project

In Belgium We have no restrictions in streaming ... so all projects do stream worldwide .. unless that project decides to stream to only particular countries.

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Hi Fozzy,

 

I heard this from some of my UK contacts .. so I only write what I heard from them. Maybe the UK restrictions has been changed since

Thanks for the update (Y)

To my knowledge the UK has restrictions between streaming audio at the UK only and streaming worldwide

Thats Wrong The US as this rule yes

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I know it's on FM in Australia, but I can only listen online (For obvious reasons!), but I've been listening to 101.9 The Fox (Melbourne's Number One Hit Music Station) recently, and I think it's amazing. The equivalent of that here in the UK would be Capital 95.8 (London's Number One Hit Music Station). I think Capital could learn a few things from The Fox, in terms of production, and content (Like the Fox Ad Free 50).

 

I was also surprised that they network their Drive Time show with other stations in the "Today" network, and I really like the feature on The Matt and Jo Breakfast Show - Heartless Hotline.

 

Anyway, it's not just online in Australia, but I'm listening online in the UK.

 

Phew. :)

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xrlentradioaustralia is using Web Radio World by the looks of it. That means he is pretty much covered in every country.

 

James and Fozzy

 

Like I said, this is true if the program originates from the UK, not if it comes from Australia and just uses a UK server.

 

The source where the stream is based makes that at that country royalties has to be paid.
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I know it's on FM in Australia, but I can only listen online (For obvious reasons!), but I've been listening to 101.9 The Fox (Melbourne's Number One Hit Music Station) recently, and I think it's amazing. The equivalent of that here in the UK would be Capital 95.8 (London's Number One Hit Music Station). I think Capital could learn a few things from The Fox, in terms of production, and content (Like the Fox Ad Free 50).

 

I was also surprised that they network their Drive Time show with other stations in the "Today" network, and I really like the feature on The Matt and Jo Breakfast Show - Heartless Hotline.

 

Anyway, it's not just online in Australia, but I'm listening online in the UK.

 

Phew. :)

 

Good station Fox :) Yes there are other stations like it around Australia.. (Today Network) like b105 (QLD), SAfm (SA), 1047 (ACT), 2dayfm (NSW) etc...

 

Hamish and andy are brilliant! Im listening to them now! :biggrinthumb:

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Good station Fox :) Yes there are other stations like it around Australia.. (Today Network) like b105 (QLD), SAfm (SA), 1047 (ACT), 2dayfm (NSW) etc...

 

Hamish and andy are brilliant! Im listening to them now! :biggrinthumb:

 

I really like the videos of Hamish and Andy. I saw quite a few the other day, seems like they have a lot of fun! I do really like the content and shows. I'm even thinking about going there either next year, or in 2010 to grab some Work Experience...! :biggrinthumb:

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I really like the videos of Hamish and Andy. I saw quite a few the other day, seems like they have a lot of fun! I do really like the content and shows. I'm even thinking about going there either next year, or in 2010 to grab some Work Experience...! :biggrinthumb:

Im trying to book some in with Nova 100. Im trying really hard, maybe you guys could help me get in there! Fox is REALLY hard to get into for work experience, they only do a handful every year.

 

Fox's studios are brand new though, would be a brilliant place to work!

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James and Fozzy

 

Like I said, this is true if the program originates from the UK, not if it comes from Australia and just uses a UK server.

 

webradioworld servers are not in the uk m8 think they are in chile :)

But must be ok to use them the ppluk cant be wrong??

 

Fozzy

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James and Fozzy

 

Like I said, this is true if the program originates from the UK, not if it comes from Australia and just uses a UK server.

Sorry to keep this going but...

 

Given that most UK Internet Radio stations are accessible internationally, PPL has entered into a number of Webcasting Reciprocal Agreements with the collection societies in other countries that represent record companies and performers locally. Amongst other things this means that PPL is able to license the streaming of Sound Recordings to those territories that have signed up to these agreements.

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Sorry to keep this going but...Amongst other things this means that PPL is able to license the streaming of Sound Recordings to those territories that have signed up to these agreements.

 

James, please read your own quote, it says TO those territories not FROM those territories ie it ONLY applies to a program originated in the UK.

 

If you want to keep supporting the breaking of Australian law on your forum I guess that is up to you, but I would suggest that, as the owner and moderator, you call Monika Szubert at APRA and get the REAL story.

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James, please read your own quote, it says TO those territories not FROM those territories ie it ONLY applies to a program originated in the UK.

 

If you want to keep supporting the breaking of Australian law on your forum I guess that is up to you, but I would suggest that, as the owner and moderator, you call Monika Szubert at APRA and get the REAL story.

woah woah, lets not start threatening people. I dont have a clue into licensing, i am one that wants to know more on it and you are the one teaching me :). Sure im an admin but i dont know everything ;)

 

I have misread and ceejay7777 you are right, chill. :)

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