Itsabluesky Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hi all, I am thinking to start my internet radio. I am wondering if I will go for indy artists to avoid royalty fee. Is that possible? I will ask them to send MP3 with the permission. I would like to know if there is any form that I can send to them to sign for granting permission to play their tunes, and where I can get it. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Dont think you need any form as such aslong as they are happy for you to play there music there is not a problem just keep the e-mail from them givin you there permission i would think.. Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueheart Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Itsabluesky, even independent artists have their work copyrighted with the big guys like SESAC, BMI, ASCAP, SoundExchange and then there are other similar organizations for the various countries. So unless you get it in writing from the artist that you have permission to play their music royalty free, then you will still have to get licensing. I recommend Loudcity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yes Thats true What Trueheart said but like i said if they say its ok for you to use their music just keep a copy of the mail or letter you will be fine Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsabluesky Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 unless you get it in writing from the artist that you have permission to play their music royalty free, then you will still have to get licensing. I recommend Loudcity. I don't understand... If I get permission from them, why do I still have to get licensing? What is that about? Thanks fozzy and Trueheart!! BTW, how much you guys pay for them, and how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clairedodin Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hi! You can have my songs for free. If you give me your email, I'll send you mp3s. I think many artists just want to be played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitnitr Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Even bumper music in jingles and sweepers is technically music that you can be liable to pay royalties on. Having something written in stone from the artists is best if you go the route of trying to play only indies. Be careful though. If any of the music played has any connection to the licensing agencies or a record company, you may get a letter someday to pay up. Licensing is the safe way to go. I agree with Trueheart in that Loudcity is a easy way to accomplish the licensing, and it's fairly inexpensive for a new station. Check out http://www.loudcity.net for more information. There's some pretty good information on how to get started on their pages, plus the information on how to get licensed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 If Your from UK loudcity is no good is it not? didint think they cover UK? Well never use to I might be wrong but you can always ask them if you wanna use um or try webradioworld.com they defo do Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I wanna share you some experiences about my project I have an album section called "pool" .. these are all artists who have a myspace profile and they contact Me by PM at myspace or by email at my website if they are in search for airplay .. I can assure you .. lots are interested. I announce this to them as free airplay for myspace artists. All of their requests by email etc are saved by Me into a seperated directory of my Outlook. However even they are "asking" for airplay .. the artist, songwriter, etc do have still their copyrights on their material .. even they are unsigned artists It looks more easy to Me to choose for a payment of the royalties .. because if you play Indy artists only you are on a very small edge between signed and unsigned artists ... afterall both are still owner of the song(s) and deserve a part of the royalty cake Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 mmmm but if they are unsigned artists and even if you did pay copyrights would they get a part of the cake ??? Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueheart Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I don't understand... If I get permission from them, why do I still have to get licensing? What is that about? Thanks fozzy and Trueheart!! BTW, how much you guys pay for them, and how? Fozzy is right, a artist may let you have one or two songs to play and not worry about it. They may even email it to you like Fozzy said. However with any independent artist, it's a good idea to get permission in writing. Not every independent artist will let you have something for free. So (just as a side note) if you like a independent artist a lot! and want their music, maybe even their album to play, but they won't give it to you for free and you end up buying it, then there's no permission granted and you'd need to be licensed so that you're legal. I am licensed through Loudcity (loudcity.com) and pay $35.28 a month (through paypal). Fozzy, Loudcity pays to launch all the stations streams from the loudcity.com domain. They track what we play and report that data to SoundExchange. Now SoundExchange is supossed to pay the artists, but some artists claim that they never did get paid. The main thing is to remain legal. Because if a station isn't legal, and SoundExchange finds out about it , they will come a knockin' wanting money. There's more information on the Loudcity forum (of which James is a member:)). Trueheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Thats also a question to Me, because they are not known by those agency's mmmm but if they are unsigned artists and even if you did pay copyrights would they get a part of the cake ??? Fozzy however we as broadcasters can only hope that they get something in return Afterall .. We pay twice for it .. if signed artists are played = buying the CD and pay for broadcast so lets hope that there are somehow international regulations who makes that return possible Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajruss Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 What I do is get there ok to play without pay we play alot of indie and main stream having licensing loudcity. helps with the main stream having the bands OK to play via a email helps if they come back later and ask for payment..I have had bands do that I send them a copy of the email and if they push it send them the link to sound exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsabluesky Posted April 1, 2009 Author Share Posted April 1, 2009 I have some artists email me, they are signed with BMI or ASCAP. But they grant me permission to play their music. (thru email) Is that okay ? Will ASCAP will come to me to pay up? Thanks for every comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 I have some artists email me, they are signed with BMI or ASCAP. But they grant me permission to play their music. (thru email) Is that okay ? Will ASCAP will come to me to pay up? Thanks for every comments! Not sure about this m8 i would guess yes they would ask you to pay up but thats not a defo coz i dont know Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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