Brutish Sailor Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 This free program is a LIFESAVER for winamp users. simple and EFFECTIVE for creating playlist that sound pro. An old program, but still VERY effective for playlist making. 1) Download here http://www.riograndemud.com/clockwheel/download.php Ignore the windows emulation it talks about for XP users. 2) to execute it. A)Go to properties on the shortcut B)Change the following info. target = "C:\Program Files\Amazing Clock Wheel\AmazingClockWheel.exe" start in = "C:\Program Files\Amazing Clock Wheel" Now you should be able to run it in XP or vista. 3) Follow these instructions. http://www.riograndemud.com/clockwheel/clockwheel2.htm This program DOES NOT run as a source for sound. Its simply to make a new automated playlist. But for the cost of "free" it kicks the hell out of any pal script. Long live open source. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Yes indeed .. I think open source is something who gonna be expanded into the future .. such as many antivirus software compagnies already did by offering free user friendly software Long live open source. I know you're not a fan of SAM but also in SAM playlists and clockwheels can be easily made both by using the Event Sheduler or into the config of SAM The .m3u files can be easily loaded With a good clockwheel at the SAM config you can create already a very nice automated format to a station .. "if" all tracks are managed into their right directory .. if not .. it can become a mess Thanks for sharing the update links Happy Easter ! Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 I personally have nothing against Spacial Audio or SAM. I just feel if broadcasters cannot afford SAM (and $50 a month x5 in their new plan is still to rich for my blood considering the use for it) broadcasters should not have to go without a way of having a well organized program. I've known guys in the past that's offered cracked SAM codes and the such. They ask me why I don't use them. I really get a kick out of saying ,"Why would I?" Trust me, I know PAL scripts are awesome. I just want to make sure all the 25,000 Shoutcast YP listed members out there know legal means of doing business other than piracy. NOTE: I love this guys disclaimer as well. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 8, 2009 Author Share Posted April 8, 2009 another good one, for those of a different flavor is the MJ (MAMBO JAMBO) playlist maker from oddsock. Also open source. http://www.oddsock.org/tools/mjplaylist/ Its a little different, and you have to go into your program directory to make the shortcut, but I like the rule setter it offers. I also like that when your done, you hit the "integrate into winamp playlist" button and presto! KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arfa B Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 You REALLY need a playlist maker if you are at all serious about making a good sounding station. Natural Music is wonderful at a price, but Tabasco is a bloody work of art AND IS FREE! Sorry PAL Users, I don't rate SAM, my experiences leave me really cold. If I have helped you with a Freebie- please be kind enough to add a link from your own site or blog to mine- thanks! http://arthurburton.net Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THREETEN RADIO Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Sorry PAL Users, I don't rate SAM, my experiences leave me really cold. I agree with that also Arfur. :biggrinthumb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 I also agree with Arfur. I've had to many DB crashes with SAM, but as soon as I changed over to Digilink-X and now to the RCS family with NexGen and Player101 I have hit a gold mine, Player101's scheduler is an old included version of the RCS Music Scheduler they had back in the day when Audio Wizard was satill in it's infancy as the digital era was getting kicked off. But for the extra $200 I'd rather buy Player101 and get some extra adons for the $100 more than fiddle with SAM anymore, I mean I still do some PAL scripting for people, but I refuse to use SAM anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arfa B Posted April 12, 2009 Share Posted April 12, 2009 It takes enough time to get a station right, and the playout software should be working WITH you, and not AGAINST you. SAM was far too unreliable in my opinion. It simply had a mind of its own. The PAL scripts are relatively easy to use and make- but it would be nice if the help info. you get with SAM was of some use and pointed you in the right direction! The reliability was awful, database problems with songs- THE SAME SONGS repeating in the same hour! There really is NO excuse for that to happen in any playout auto system. I don't see why you should have to spend half your life trying to get an auto system to work, when you should be busy doing other things like station production, programming, selling ... whatever. It may be right for you if you enjoy a battle, and are turned on by the thought of a full scale war with your own station, or probably more relevant, you enjoy the anorakness of a piece of software where you THINK you can get inside it, and modify it or whatever. It does great crossfades once setup PROPERLY, and that is all I can say in its favour really. Having said that Raduga with the crossfade auto batch processor is MUCH better at doing the same thing. Sorry, I wasted enough time fighting with SAM and its quirky/trendy PAL scripts, but life really is too short.... and I repeat- You simply cannot rely on it unless you are there ALL THE TIME to nurse and cuddle it through. Tabasco coupled with Zararadio is a cheaper and better/ more reliable option, even better it is FREE!!! Raduga is nice too, but far too expensive! I have played with Simian recently, and quite frankly, it simply-knocks spots off SAM! Damn pricey though!!! In my own, and very humble opinion, buy Simian, or stick with Zara/Tabasco... SAM costs money, and ain't worth it! If I have helped you with a Freebie- please be kind enough to add a link from your own site or blog to mine- thanks! http://arthurburton.net Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin 97 Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 It takes enough time to get a station right! I agree! It takes time to get a station right! For example, I launched my station in late December, but I am just getting it right now and I don't even plan to get a voiceover guy until June, but I have finally sorted out the playlist style and gotten that right after months of different attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I worked with SAM for over 2 years, yes TWO YEARS!!! and had DataBase problems left and right, I dumped it for Digilink-X and it gave me fits on scheduling, so now I am with RCS/Prophet Systems Innovations and believe me when I say it, you will love RCS products a lot better. I am using NexGen Digital 2007 right now, in demo mode, but will be buying PLAYER101 in a few days and let me tell you now, you have to set your own crossfades, but it has everything you need without a hassle. If you want high scaled modules those will cost you extra, however, but the reliability is A++++, the production window is A+++, and the overall feel of the RCS programs are an A+++++++++++++, easy configuration and you can even customize your feel of what it looks like from the expired events all the way to the color of the song currently playing... And it hs it's own scheduler built in but if you get Selector to go along with it, it gives you all that much more control. Overall anything except RCS/Prophet applications will not be used ever again in my studios and remotes, that's how good their playout systems really are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I ran SAM for over two years and found that whilst capable as a playout box, I didn't really need the PAL stuff and Web stuff, and found that the two player approach was limiting with short stings and the lack of true Voice-tracking. What helped me enormously was the fact I used MusicGen Lite (from the same stable as Nexgen) for scheduling and that was a vast improvement over SAMs rotations etc. I dabbled with Player100 and Rivendell and liked them both, but felt I didn't personally have the time to go through 4,000 songs and mark them so in the end I picked Station Playlist, both playout and scheduling. It does extremely well, although I do sometimes miss the full power of the Musicgen Lite scheduler. I actually asked RCS about Player101 and Selector scheduling costs and they never even bothered to reply. When I was at the NAB show, I couldn't even pin them down, all I got were vague responses! :Z: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks for the details Richard however at prophetsys.com this MusicGen Lite isn't available anymore Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorby Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Sadly yes, they have even discontinued the full product. I have lost the installer as well so my installed copy is all I have left :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I could never get the program to work. I tried everything recommended in forums and I did quite a bit of searching online for answers. The program just immediately crashed every time I tried to open it. Oh well, we use StationPlaylist Creator now and it works fine, just costs money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 try it with the change to the start up I listed, and it wont fail you. TRUST ME. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yes Tabassco's Amazing Clockwheel is amazing to say the least. Fast as well. Knock up a weeks combination of playlists in no time. As for SAM Broadcaster. A nightmare. The only thing I liked about it was the audio. I got it sounding pretty good. The Pal scripts unless you are fairly good at computer script writing very frustrating.. The SAM forum is one thread after another of users pleading for pal scripts to carry out a function that should be done in many cases with the click of a button. The data base is another issue. They ship SAM with Firebird, then tell you to use some other data base instead. The scheduler threw everything onto the playlist back to front. A total exercise in frustration. I'm back to my old combination. Tabasscoe's, Zara Radio, Virtual Audio Cable and MBL4. Maybe not the latest. But it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arfa B Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 I gave up with Tabasco, had it load up OK after the "modification". But, oh boy- it was so unstable- you could throw your life down the pan.... sorry, but it is next to useless. Buy Station Playlist Creator- you WILL NOT be wasting your money (or time!). The support from Ross is second to none! I found it a level better than Natural Music made by BSI. It works in the normal drag and drop type/ copy and paste fashion which is second nature to Win users. NM was a nightmare to use, not at all user friendly- you often have to do things back to front.... tedious!!! Yep, Station Playlist creator is second to NONE!! If I have helped you with a Freebie- please be kind enough to add a link from your own site or blog to mine- thanks! http://arthurburton.net Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted November 23, 2009 Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well that just goes to prove how cantankerous computers can be. I've used Tobasscoes since February 07 making up 25 playlists a week and it never faulters. I removed the clicking whiring audio as it loads up as per the instructions on his web site. But thanks for the tip. I'll go and look at Station Playlist Creator. cheers, Owen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajruss Posted June 26, 2010 Share Posted June 26, 2010 try it with the change to the start up I listed, and it wont fail you. TRUST ME. Tried it wont work for me shame looks like everything I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted June 26, 2010 Author Share Posted June 26, 2010 It was a while since I posted this AJ. You use vista right? Try using MJ playlist maker from oddsock. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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