WayneOwens Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 If you have lost your job or just can't seem to keep up with the bills for your web radio's stream source...I can recommend a place to go temporarily till things settle down. I just recently signed up for Listen2MyRadio it's a SHOUTcast server host that offers free, yes I said FREE SERVER HOSTING!!! I'm in the process now of checking them out and running my servers through them, so far they seem really good. and to top it off, you get 2000 listener slots, and since I usually run two streams simutaneously...I have 4000, yes FOUR THOUSAND SLOTS for listeners to connect on. Their servers are located in Europe, and those locations are usually where I get the best connectivity to run web streams. So again, if you feel like you wanna jump on the bandwagon and get a free server to run off of as a startup or if you're having a hard time in the economy like me, do check them out, it seems to be a pretty worthwhile service, and they offer premium hosting as well if you like them and wish to upgrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 That's pretty awesome Wayne! Do they want you to run streaming ads or anything? Either way, SC gold. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THREETEN RADIO Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The catch is you have to give listeners the URL to listen to as you will NOT be accessible through Shoutcast listing. I used this medium a while back and found it unreliable and only any good if people know your URL to listen to. They make their money by the Google ads that are on the listen page, that's why it's free, I am not knocking it but do not rely on it as a main server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 The catch is you have to give listeners the URL to listen to as you will NOT be accessible through Shoutcast listing. I used this medium a while back and found it unreliable and only any good if people know your URL to listen to. They make their money by the Google ads that are on the listen page, that's why it's free, I am not knocking it but do not rely on it as a main server. 100 Per cent agree I'm in the process now of checking them out and running my servers through them, so far they seem really good. and to top it off, you get 2000 listener slots, and since I usually run two streams simutaneously...I have 4000, yes FOUR THOUSAND SLOTS for listeners to connect on. 4000 slots If you did fill um I would not wanna pay the copyrights for that:doh:So when you say "if your finding it hard to rent a server" your talking rubbish coz ok the server might be free but the copyrights still have to be payed for. Its a real bad service and been running for years...I would say if you cant rent a server then work for other station dont use this service It would cost you more in the long run and the service sucks:retard: Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I used this service a few years ago.. I found a bypass so people could listen via their player and not on the L2mR page. BUT i was searching through mixstream's website and found this.. http://freestreamhosting.org/ You can currently sign up with them for a free stream. Anybody wanna try this out and report back? -James Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I Would tryout anything that cost nothing lol I might set it up and give it ago and let you guys know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THREETEN RADIO Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I used this service a few years ago.. I found a bypass so people could listen via their player and not on the L2mR page. BUT i was searching through mixstream's website and found this.. http://freestreamhosting.org/ You can currently sign up with them for a free stream. Anybody wanna try this out and report back? -James That is a much better service as mixstream provide a good service. The owner (Gav) is a great guy, very helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I Would tryout anything that cost nothing lol I might set it up and give it ago and let you guys know Cheers! That is a much better service as mixstream provide a good service. The owner (Gav) is a great guy, very helpful. I agree, i hope he can come over here and explain his new service! :biggrinthumb: Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Just A Note to newbies you still need copyright cover :( its the server thats free nothing else Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Hi James, I have set up a teststream at 96kbps 44.1 stereo http://s1.myradiostream.com/stream/428/listen.pls or IP http://87.98.151.106:8832 The standard admin shoutcast setting is private (non public) Quality looks fine to Me BUT i was searching through mixstream's website and found this.. http://freestreamhosting.org/ You can currently sign up with them for a free stream. Anybody wanna try this out and report back? Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwdservices Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Yeah, Listen2MyRadio is terrible. I played around with them and all I got was buffering and outages. They also shut down your shoutcast server after a certain amount of hours and you have to manually go and turn it back on. Besides, a 2000 slot SHOUTcast DNAS is going to give you issues if you get anywhere near filling that up. Generally a single SHOUTcast dnas shouldn't be holding more than 500 listeners because of instability issues and also it can cause longer buffers in the beginning while tuning in waiting to hear the stream. Not sure about this new service from MixStream, but knowing how MixStream operates, I imagine that it is probably pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 15, 2009 Author Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'll try MixStream as well as L2MR, but fozzy I'll correect you're statement..if you have no income on your station then what is the multiplier of nothing, NOTHING!!! NO INCOME NO ROYALTIES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 ok GKR Beat me to it lol but ill try it for 5 days and see if it anygood and report bk and im sure GKR will do to so you will get 2 sides and thats good well done GKR take the dip like me lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'll try MixStream as well as L2MR, but fozzy I'll correect you're statement..if you have no income on your station then what is the multiplier of nothing, NOTHING!!! NO INCOME NO ROYALTIES Not sure what you talk about?? i pay copyrights?? If you dont then your the sad one :doh:wayneOwens or the same guy on radio daddy who talk big but small i not call you that pepole on radio daddy did .. i was just trying to make the point coz servers r free copyrights are not free thats all get off you stand ffs thank you and just coz you dont make money off your stream dont mean you dont pay omg can anyone tell this guy to wake up? just coz you dont make money dont mean you dont pay for copyrights ffs lmfao you are so daft if you think thats how it works Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Their are ways to get around MAJOR buffering issues, but most people wouldn't like them. If I had to pick a poison, I would say... 16kbps AAC+ V2. Lossy files to lossy format could work for this as well. It wont sound as polished, But guaranteed to beat the stream LOL. IE try transcoding AAC files to AAC V2 from source in automation. It might lose A LOT of sound quality, but you WILL beat that buffer rate. Yeah, Listen2MyRadio is terrible. I played around with them and all I got was buffering and outages. They also shut down your shoutcast server after a certain amount of hours and you have to manually go and turn it back on. Besides, a 2000 slot SHOUTcast DNAS is going to give you issues if you get anywhere near filling that up. Generally a single SHOUTcast dnas shouldn't be holding more than 500 listeners because of instability issues and also it can cause longer buffers in the beginning while tuning in waiting to hear the stream. Not sure about this new service from MixStream, but knowing how MixStream operates, I imagine that it is probably pretty good. 1 instance of SC_SERV was not made to hold more than 999 people. Higher than that, and you should be hands deep in your relay integration. Double the 2000 limit, and you should be looking into the firehose app. Not that I have had, nor will ever have, that high of a headcount. Thats just how I understand it from some Japanese friends I made that are PLAGUED with headcount issues. They dropped a server with 3000+ heads at that moment while trying to relay one to another LOL. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 Their are ways to get around MAJOR buffering issues, but most people wouldn't like them. If I had to pick a poison, I would say... 16kbps AAC+ V2. Lossy files to lossy format could work for this as well. It wont sound as polished, But guaranteed to beat the stream LOL. IE try transcoding AAC files to AAC V2 from source in automation. It might lose A LOT of sound quality, but you WILL beat that buffer rate. Originally Posted by WayneOwens http://forums.broadcastingworld.net/images/buttons/viewpost.gif I'll try MixStream as well as L2MR, but fozzy I'll correect you're statement..if you have no income on your station then what is the multiplier of nothing, NOTHING!!! NO INCOME NO ROYALTIES Nor this guy thinks if you dont make money you dont have to pay copyrights lmao so you make no money you pay nothing?? lmao you got a lot more reading to do I see you do have glasses not to be rude but should of gone to specsavers read the rules m8 0 or 1 tune in you have to pay I've done the resaerch on that one bud Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 HEY HEY HEY, same side, same side. Remember that different countries follow different laws as far as regional server locations are concerned. For America, royalties apply even if you are non-profit. I also know that the RIAA has done out-of-country lawsuits. This is one of my favorite talks about this. Keep in mind this is before I started accepting John of Magnatunes philosophy that artist MAKE NOTHING on royalties. http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304624 I also make references to the "DCMA" instead of the "DMCA" LOL It was a rough day to discuss royalties. But I wanted to pass this along to you wayne to see if you like this "private" offer 365 does. I am going to leave it at that, but I would HIGHLY recommend you read through this. NO MATTER WHAT, Loudcity has been very good to me. But 365 might help in a situation like yours here. Im NOT a fan of 365 because I have heard some horror stories from their users. Locking in a hobby customer for 1 year is BS. But thats a personal oppinion. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 www.webradioworld.com can give you a better deal but dont think coz you dont make you dont pay it not true m8 .. ok i joke and make fun sorry but i know you been around fo abit now you should know the rules m8 from your pic on radio daddy your not a kid get in the real world m8 stop dreaming ffs or you might find yourself in sh~t wake up 0 or 1 tune in you gotta pay m8 if you dont pay its guys like you that put price up for us guys that do pay get what i mean?? pay m8 dont suck off us that do Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I am a big fan of WWR, and if they branched out to the USA (pipe dream) I would convert. EVERY FORUM I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS that talks royalty discussion has one topic brought up by the broadcasters. WHY IS IT no one will start a world wide collection service? Consider me an avid user of that service on the drop of a hat. (pipe dream 2) KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I'll try MixStream as well as L2MR, but fozzy I'll correect you're statement..if you have no income on your station then what is the multiplier of nothing, NOTHING!!! NO INCOME NO ROYALTIES Just incase pepole forgot what he said I've done the resaerch on that one bud no wonder radio daddy call you so much m8 you ask for freebies and dont pay ffs come on nothing for nothing m8 :)if i was a cu~t Id grass you but im not> We have a Leach can admin close this before i say what i real feel about a leach we pay for fools like this thats why price go up coz of fools like him ffs what a fool coz you dont make you dont pay lmao read the rules fool Fozzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzy Posted April 15, 2009 Share Posted April 15, 2009 I am a big fan of WWR, and if they branched out to the USA (pipe dream) I would convert. EVERY FORUM I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS that talks royalty discussion has one topic brought up by the broadcasters. WHY IS IT no one will start a world wide collection service? Consider me an avid user of that service on the drop of a hat. (pipe dream 2) m8 pm m8 im sure i can sort you out its webradoworld np its wrw not wwr lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 I tell ya man, you need to knock your shit down a level. I have done return VO and production work for RD so I feltr as though I earned a few freebies. Now I'm gonna be upfront and honest with you...I run an honest business, and I'm gonna tell you right now, I don't care for the slightest second what those moochers at RD think of me, I left them because after Leo departed it turned into a bunch of whimpering little asses. If people don't like me, they better say it to my GD Face, I will not tolerate being talked about behind my damn back. James can edit this post as much as he feels necessary, but I will tell you now Fozzy...I have paid royalties before and have done my resaearch too, so back off now, and just leave me alone...you don't like the way I operate, I'll have licenses here in the next few days as I'm selling ads again. But do you remeber the SAVENETRADIO campaign? They want to raise the rates to 125% of our REVENUE!!!!! I have no revenue, I checked into this, no revenue, no royalties. Get over yourself and your damn ego punk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Cut this out guys! Fozzy, dont even bother replying and same to you WayneOwens. You both have different sides and this is not the place to discuss it. WayneOwens can do what he likes, nobody is stopping him. Fozzy, please dont try start any fights, sure it makes you angry but its not what we want on our forums! Next time its an infraction buddy. Thanks GKREurope for testing it out! It sounds good and it looks like a service that is worthwhile. Hope it can survive! Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Thanks James, and I did test out hose servers nad I wanna say I'm impressed at the qualityt of them...two simultaneous servers running with my other two, it's so great man, thanks for the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Hi James, Well it looks not "that" amazing :( ... I don't have any access anymore to the account I made, neither to the custom page with the webplayer and everything seems to be blocked However at first sight quality was great but it looks that it has still restrictions :doh: I used this service a few years ago.. I found a bypass so people could listen via their player and not on the L2mR page. BUT i was searching through mixstream's website and found this.. http://freestreamhosting.org/ You can currently sign up with them for a free stream. Anybody wanna try this out and report back? -James Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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