Changed hosts to MyShoutServer

[RoosterRadio]

AJ, you don't seem to have much respect for our "internets" here in Chicago. I'm getting tired of everybody assuming that if a server is in Chicago it must be hosted by FDC. I honestly wish all of you guys who chime in about the quality of other host's bandwidth would actually get your facts straight before chiming in with expert opinion.

 

Like anyone else, I am skeptical about too good to be true pricing. So I took the next logical step and tested. Tested on the Choopa and Steadfast network. I found both to be absent of buffering or other network related issues. I have been up and running for several months with two streams on Myshoutserver hosted here in Chicago on Steadfast. The money I'm saving allows me to afford to run Station Playlist Studio on a VPS.

 

There are more "reputable" hosts who I have had far more difficulty with than this host. I would suggest you try them for yourself.

[BWorld]

AJ, you don't seem to have much respect for our "internets" here in Chicago. I'm getting tired of everybody assuming that if a server is in Chicago it must be hosted by FDC. I honestly wish all of you guys who chime in about the quality of other host's bandwidth would actually get your facts straight before chiming in with expert opinion.

 

Like anyone else, I am skeptical about too good to be true pricing. So I took the next logical step and tested. Tested on the Choopa and Steadfast network. I found both to be absent of buffering or other network related issues. I have been up and running for several months with two streams on Myshoutserver hosted here in Chicago on Steadfast. The money I'm saving allows me to afford to run Station Playlist Studio on a VPS.

 

There are more "reputable" hosts who I have had far more difficulty with than this host. I would suggest you try them for yourself.

 

This is very true and I do agree with your statement. From reading AJ's posts, I can only assume he had a bad experience with FDC. Our company also had this bad experience and that is why we moved to Choopa and that was by far the best choice. We have since opened quite a few more servers with them and we will probably stick with them as we have not had 1 issue in the entire time we have been with Choopa. In my opinion, Choopa rocks. I dont know about other hosts besides Choopa, Caronet, and Steadfast.

 

Caronet: Had great uptime for the first month, then went down almost daily for 'scheduled maintenance' that we never got notified about. We stuck with them for about 2 months. (Thankfully we didnt move all of our servers).

 

Steadfast: Had great service overall, but we always had an issue with our equipment switch at least once a month, but we did stick with them for about 1.5 years.

 

Choopa: No issues so far, other than an attempted DDOS attack in which the server slowed down a bit after the firewall caught it. We've been with Choopa since 2007 and have not once regretted it. Great uptime, awesome turn-around for new orders too.

 

Hopefully this is of some help to others.

[ajruss]

AJ, you don't seem to have much respect for our "internets" here in Chicago. I'm getting tired of everybody assuming that if a server is in Chicago it must be hosted by FDC. I honestly wish all of you guys who chime in about the quality of other host's bandwidth would actually get your facts straight before chiming in with expert opinion.

 

Like anyone else, I am skeptical about too good to be true pricing. So I took the next logical step and tested. Tested on the Choopa and Steadfast network. I found both to be absent of buffering or other network related issues. I have been up and running for several months with two streams on Myshoutserver hosted here in Chicago on Steadfast. The money I'm saving allows me to afford to run Station Playlist Studio on a VPS.

 

There are more "reputable" hosts who I have had far more difficulty with than this host. I would suggest you try them for yourself.

I did a trace on his test server it went to fdc why dont you do the same before you jump on anyone you can find that ip http://myshoutserver.com/shoutcast-hosting-server-demo.php

Hostname:67.159.44.16ISP:FDCservers.netOrganization:FDCservers.netProxy:None detectedType:Corporate

[shoutcaststreaming]

AJ is quite correct .. the test servers on MyShoutServer are hosted by FDC in Chicago.

[kwdservices]

shoutcaststreaming.us seems to be a little more reliable but it costs more.

 

People just don't seem to get this. Most of the time, the host that costs more is going to be more reliable. Yes, there are cases where the host that costs more is worse, but generally it isn't. Don't you wonder why the most popular SHOUTcast hosts are all much more expensive than most hosts? It is because they have become popular because of their quality bandwidth and quality support which they can only legitimately support by having high prices.

 

Below is a list of a few hosts that come to mind as large and successful hosts. I don't think anyone can argue that any of the hosts below are bad or have bad bandwidth providers. Neither myself or our company have any affiliation with these hosts:

 

StreamGuys - $4 per slot at 128kbps

StreamSolutions - $1.50 per slot at 128kbps

Fast-Serv - $1.50 per slot at 128kbps (300 slot commit, $2 per slot with lowest commit)

EGI Hosting - $1.00 per slot at 128kbps

 

Notice how at a minimum, all of these hosts charge at least $1 per slot for 128kbps.

 

It is impossible to run a stream hosting company with good reliability and to offer something ridiculous like 500 slots at 128kbps for $89. Look at Choopa's website and do the math. It simply does not work.

 

100mbps unmetered on Choopa's site is $349. You can support about 750 listeners at 128kbps on a 100mbit unmetered server.

 

Divide the cost of the server by the number of listeners it can support and you get the price it costs per slot. In this case it is 47 cents. 500 slots at 128kbps for $89 comes out to 18 cents per slot (Divide cost by listeners).

 

Multiple 18 cents by 750 and you get $135, which means that if that host is offering that deal without overselling quite a bit, they are losing $214/month per server.

 

And wait, I haven't even included the costs of paying people to be available 24/7 for support. It's not just bandwidth, it's support too! Assuming you pay 2 experienced people to be "on call" 24/7 so that you can ensure that someone is always available to respond to a customer, you are going to be in trouble if you are also losing $214/month per server.

 

Now of course this is excluding when a company is running a promotion or something, but if a host is claiming to be on premium bandwidth and is offering 500 slots at 128kbps for $89, something is terribly wrong.

 

We were guilty of this ourselves, but after 6 months of selling SHOUTcast, we realized this, switched to a premium provider, raised our prices, and haven't had a single issue since besides our own in house control panel crashing a few servers back in January.

 

I am sorry if I sound too critical or rude, but people need to understand how things actually work for stream hosts.

[shoutcaststreaming]

Good reply, Karl !!

 

You get what you pay for.

[BWorld]

Very great reply Karl! I love it. To the point :D

[RoosterRadio]

First of all, if any of you had read Breck's post, it clearly states that he migrated all of his hosting from FDC as new owner.

 

Secondly, had any of you bothered to click the link on the demo page, you would see that it is a dead link. I'm sure if you contact Breck directly he can provide a demo.

 

Thirdly, I find it in poor taste that hosting providers comment on other competing businesses.

 

I also find it in poor taste that those who have never tested another company's product provide negative commentary. I would also say that I find it amusing how there are so many who will parrot what others have said without knowing what they are talking about.

 

I can say that as of now I am a happy MyShoutserver customer. Feel free to test my stream at: http://loudcity.com/stations/rooster-radio/files/show/tunein.html

[kwdservices]

Good reply, Karl !!

 

You get what you pay for.

 

Very great reply Karl! I love it. To the point :D

 

 

Thanks for the comments guys. I was afraid that I was going to get yelled at for that post, hehe

[kwdservices]

Thirdly, I find it in poor taste that hosting providers comment on other competing businesses.

 

I also find it in poor taste that those who have never tested another company's product provide negative commentary. I would also say that I find it amusing how there are so many who will parrot what others have said without knowing what they are talking about.

 

I understand your concerns, but please notice that in most of the posts made by other shoutcast hosts in this thread, what they wrote has nothing to do with their company and it is simply thoughts coming from the poster, and not the views of the company. I think that as long as we are not promoting ourselves or explaining why our company is better, that us posting comments like these are just the same as people who are just station owners posting. Please correct me if I am incorrect James.

 

In regards to your mention of comments regarding a service that hasn't been tested, that's like saying you can't comment about a car you see at a car dealership that is some clunker from 1990. Yes, testing it is the best idea, but do you really need to test drive it to know that it isn't a great car?

[GKIye]

Thanks Karl ... great reply

I am sorry if I sound too critical or rude, but people need to understand how things actually work for stream hosts.

and no you didn't sound rude ... Telling the truth is important !

 

PS : I'm wondering why US members always apologize themself for being rude if the truth is told.

To Me as European it still sounds strange if I read apologies because that one was willing to write the real facts ...

:doh:strange world ... isn't

[RoosterRadio]

Again you show little or no respect for your competition in comparing MyShoutserver to a used car.

 

With regard to your grammar skills, here is a life tip: http://writing.lifetips.com/faq/60715/0/which-is-correct-regards-or-regard/index.html

 

I have a small little station. I made a choice to go with value after doing my homework. I have had no issues whatsoever in almost five months. If the quality of service should fail in the next day, week or year then I will still have saved a considerable amount of money.

 

I can see that I can not convince you to stop your petty criticisms of a host you have failed to research so I will let those who can think for themselves decide if MyShoutserver is a good choice.

[James]

RoosterRadio, nobody is criticising you or MyShoutServer. I have recommended my friend to MyShoutServer and he is very happy with his server and the level of customer service We are a worldwide community and many of our members speak many different languages, spelling is not a big issue and all that matters is the conversation and the friendly advice given around here!

 

Ive currently got your station in my playlist on my BoomBox for friday, i look forward to listening to it! :D

[ajruss]

RoosterRadio just to let you know I got slots from them this weekend .

[kwdservices]

With regard to your grammar skills, here is a life tip: http://writing.lifetips.com/faq/60715/0/which-is-correct-regards-or-regard/index.html

 

 

I am terribly sorry if I offended you by making a small grammar mistake while writing that post in a hurry....

 

While I do agree that it is annoying to see the "two, too, to" mistake and spelling mistakes, I don't see why you need to criticize over a tiny error like that. Again, sorry if I offedned you, but I really have better things to do in my day than proof reading and checking every single use of grammar twice while posting in forums.

[kwdservices]

I can see that I can not convince you to stop your petty criticisms of a host you have failed to research so I will let those who can think for themselves decide if MyShoutserver is a good choice.

 

Hi Rooster,

 

I would really appreicate if you could quote where I criticized MyShoutServer because I am unable to find it in my posts.

 

I also find it interesting how you've only made 7 posts here at Broadcasting World, 4 of which have a very negative attitude.

 

Thanks

[Exozito]

I think Myshoutserver.com is reliable enough for small-time broadcasters, besides, you get what you pay for(most of the time). I would also like to remind everyone here that there are plenty of other good shoutcast hosting companies out there. Read reviews, ask other people on what they think of their Shoutcast host, if done right, you will surely find a suitable host that meets your needs.

 

Webcasting as a hobby costs money, think of it as a reward for the effort that you have put into your job.

[citrus3]

I believe every stream host oversells to a certain limit to make profit if their prices are in any way competitive.

[shoutcaststreaming]

I believe every stream host oversells to a certain limit to make profit if their prices are in any way competitive.

You may think so and your prices look very competitive.

 

I can't believe that a Stream Host can make a statement like that.

 

The quality Stream Hosts do not over sell, as they do not want any buffering, and their reputation is on the line. The quality Stream Hosts use Dedicated Bandwidth only, not Shared Bandwidth, so again, they do not buffer.

 

Our servers are only running only at 40% to 60% of capacity.

 

Our prices are very competitive compared to SpacialNet, Fast-Serv, Wavestreaming, etc. and just like those quality Stream Hosts, we use Dedicated Bandwidth and we DO NOT oversell.

 

Your statement should have said:

 

"If the prices look too good to be true (100 slots at 128k for $25 a month), then they are probably overselling."

[citrus3]

I am not talking about overselling to the point of causing buffering but to a point where the server is around 80% of its capacity and the stream host is still making profit and able to provide a perfect service.

 

Our servers are currently at 20-40% of their maximum capacity and I see that in no way as overselling.

 

If one reaches 80% then I would add more servers to our network.

 

This is the way that MyShoutServer is operating and you can probably tell due to their very competitive pricing they are selling a few extra slots here and there and not bandwidth.

[shoutcaststreaming]

1. It shows absolutely no class to slam another Stream Host. What did he ever do to you ?
   
2. Correct me if I am wrong, but your pricing is just about the same as his.