TwiZtah Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I was wondering if anyone has any solutions to this situation I've came across. I had some fellow DJ's who tried to operate SAM on their new computers and came across some problems with Vista and SAM. The quality did not sound good and either did their voice when they tried to talk. Is there something that can be done ? adjustments in SAM perhaps? OR is it just that SAM does not "play well" with Vista yet? This is another situation I found myself into. I am going to be building my own radio station from scratch which is 110% new to me, never done this sort of thing before. I do not have the first clue of how to get the station on the page, how to make it stream. This is just the tip of the ice burg for me though like I said I have no idea of what I am doing per say when it come to this side of Internet Radio. I've DJ'd for about 8 years I just never got into the owning and building side of it so I think I am going to need all the help and advise I can get. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it greatly ... TwiZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Right on bro. Dont sweat it. ALL music programs have issues integrating with Vista while trying to transcode for a live broadcast due to the "what-U-hear" interface. Vista screwed up on this BIG TIME. My TRUE recommendation would be to tell them to get XP. MUCH less headache. But otherwise... You could tell them to prerecord their shows. Set it up with a PAL format. Its easy and pretty sweet. Makes it a little harder to take live request, but not too hard. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiZtah Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for the idea, but could a person who has Vista on their computer already go back to XP? This is what is keeping me from getting a new computer right now. I don't want anything to do with Vista, at least for now. It all just sounds like a headache... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Once you catch on to the basics, all streaming gets much easier. Source----DSP------RELAY(server)-------listener. We have all been there. You just take it one step at a time and know all understanding isnt going to come overnight. Einstein once said ," You don't have to know everything to be a genius, just be able to reference it within 15 minutes..." This community is a great resource for learning. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 It can be done. I would buy an external device to back up your music and data of importance (a good idea anyways ) But automations is not a bad idea to try. You might like them better than live broadcasting after a while. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 ALSO, a second computer can help as well... I am a LOW BUDGET broadcaster. Low like Tila Tequilas morals. But a lot of the guys here use SAM. They might have found a better idea. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hi Twiz First of all .. welcome to BW To be honest .. as SAM user .. I don't know if it works with Vista To my own project (see my signature) the SAM at the mainserver works on Win Server2003 and the SAM at my own pc runs on XP I would suggest you to contact by making a supportticket the support service of SpacialAudio aka Spacialnet ... for more details please read the content of one of my sticky topics at BW about SAM : http://forums.broadcastingworld.net/showthread.php?t=7199 Make sure to make a registration at the broadcaster section .. this gonna make it easier to receive an answer to your ticket At the broadcaster section you are able to add your station aka SAM to their directory and it gonna show you also an ID who has to be inserted with your password into the config at your SAM If you wanna make SAM running as it should be .. please play around and give it a go to all features .. to stream you gonna find an "Encoder" section where you can add the IP and Port + password to your streamprovider etc etc So first step ... send a ticket to ask if SAM is compatible with Vista Good Luck and enjoy BW ! Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWorld Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Hello, for everyones information, SAM Broadcaster is not supported in Vista. There are tons of things that do not work in Vista. I bought a vista PC and had to revert back to XP by purchasing a whole new XP Pro. SAM is Amazing, but not when in combination with Vista. ██ Stream101 | Affordable Media Solutions ██ Shared cPanel? Web Hosting | WordPress Hosting | Premium Stream Hosting ██ TOLL-FREE: (616) 277-7280 | 30 Day NO QUESTIONS Money-Back Guarantee ██ 100% Cogent Free Network | CloudLinux OS | Tier 1 Bandwidth | Grand Rapids, MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigloo Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Well according to Spacial Audio, the only version that does work with Vista is 4.3.6. I asked them a few months ago abougt it since I was gettign a Vista Laptop. It works just fine, but those that try a version lower than that have experience inconsistent problems. One day one thing the next something else. Make sure you are using version 4.3.6. Here is the message I got from Spacial a while ago: Thanks for contacting Spacial Audio support. Please do not install your Sam3 program. Please only install the latest version of sam $ sam 4.36 Windows vista will have issues with earlier versions of Sam broadcaster. for best reults Please install the mysql database http://www.mysql.com The extra download is not required. thanks Paul Merrell www.spacialnet.com www.spacialaudio.com ________ Lou Bigloo Christian Radio http://www/biglooradio.com/ digiSTREAM SHOUTcast Hosting http://www.digistream.info/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Twiz, If you need some consultation, PM me and I will get you hooked up with me and a friend and we will get you all hooked up with net radio setups...even make it so your streaming life is so much easier as me and this friend own and operate sister stations, so it is beneficial we both stya with the times. We both use XP and it is somewhat difficult to go from Vista to XP based on the way Vista is written to a partition on your hard drive, but I think if you spent a few hours with us, we could get you pointed in the right direction, so PM me and I'll take you through the hard knocks of owning webradio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Wayne knows what hes talking about KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajruss Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Right click the sam icon go to properties go to compatibility click run this program in compatibility mode for windows xp service pack 2 then click ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Thanks for the update Right click the sam icon go to properties go to compatibility click run this program in compatibility mode for windows xp service pack 2 then click ok Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I wonder if this would work for the SC DSP? GOing to have to relay this to the boys... KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneOwens Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Wayne knows what hes talking about Thanks for the vote of confidence Brutish, it takes a while to get the right setups, but after a while you get it all the right way, it's taken me two years and about $5 G's, but it's all worked out. Ok please no one tell my sam 4 that it wont work with vista please don't want my station going down Right click the sam icon go to properties go to compatibility click run this program in compatibility mode for windows xp service pack 2 then click ok AJ, this is a very good idea to try, andything's worth a shot at least once, let me know how that turns out. I wonder if this would work for the SC DSP? GOing to have to relay this to the boys... The SC DSP's Brutish, are still very buggy with Vista, I run SOS and Winamp with my Vista laptop and even when trying to run a DSP inside it, it can sometimes crash the whole application or if it's the wrong program all together, it can crash the laptop...It's done it to me once, and I immedsiately got rid of all DSP's on my Vista. Thankfully though, once I get this laptop paid off, I'll be working on the transistion back to XP. But for now, if you wish to PM me if you do remote stuff, I can point you in a good direction, regular studio work, I don't know what to do with it for now, as it's got me stumped on the basics lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiZtah Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Thanks again all for your replies to my situation, I think I might play it safe and stay with XP for now and just keep my rig updated best I can. I'll also be sure to pass on the info about Vista. I'll hit you up Wayne sounds like good deal... all I know is I have tons to learn about building a site and graphics. I have some other ideas up my sleeve but I'll leave those there for now until I'm ready. Again thanks everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hi Twiz, At the time you are able to setup your SAM .. it can be a good idea to make some screenshots of it. This can be usefull to solve any problem ... But I hope for you that you can get it up and running without any help But you're welcome to ask for help Good Luck ! Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 and JUST in case you don't know how to screenshot (don't know how new you are to this) 1) hit the button labeled "prtscn" on your keyboard. 2) go to MSNpaint. 3) on the "edit" tab, select "paste" 4) save this file. 5) sign up with a free online account for picture storage like http://www.photobucket.com 6) upload it to their system (very easy to do) 7) select image code, copy it, and paste in the forums. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 The SC DSP's Brutish, are still very buggy with Vista, I run SOS and Winamp with my Vista laptop and even when trying to run a DSP inside it, it can sometimes crash the whole application or if it's the wrong program all together, it can crash the laptop...It's done it to me once, and I immedsiately got rid of all DSP's on my Vista. Thankfully though, once I get this laptop paid off, I'll be working on the transistion back to XP. All my DJ's with Vista use EDcast. A lot of fixes for vista. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajruss Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I was wondering if anyone has any solutions to this situation I've came across. I had some fellow DJ's who tried to operate SAM on their new computers and came across some problems with Vista and SAM. The quality did not sound good and either did their voice when they tried to talk. Is there something that can be done ? adjustments in SAM perhaps? OR is it just that SAM does not "play well" with Vista yet? This is another situation I found myself into. I am going to be building my own radio station from scratch which is 110% new to me, never done this sort of thing before. I do not have the first clue of how to get the station on the page, how to make it stream. This is just the tip of the ice burg for me though like I said I have no idea of what I am doing per say when it come to this side of Internet Radio. I've DJ'd for about 8 years I just never got into the owning and building side of it so I think I am going to need all the help and advise I can get. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it greatly ... TwiZ Ok this is a easy fix on the sound of the voice .On the voice fx box click config go down to buffer settings change that to 10 then on packet time change to 20-22.Now click ok now on upper left click file and save configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBVoice Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I'm not sure which version I have BUT I had the same problem but then I read a forum on here, I think, and it said to set your buffer settings to 20 and it worked very well for me. I only use my vista laptop when I'm out of town and it basically works fine. The original problem was like you said, voice skipping/crackling when someone opens their mic...once you set up the settings correct, I found maybe 2 or 3 acurances of hearing the crackling noise within 3-4 hours which is MUCH better. Bottom line, Vista sucks ;) -JB Jon Bova "Successful people have libraries. The rest have big screen TVs. - Jim Rohn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiZtah Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 I think I might abandon the SAM system for another more advanced system depending on the cost and how comfortable I am with it in hopes that most of my problems will kinda go away. I agree from what I've been told Vista just seems to be too much of a headache to try and deal with for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Hi Twiz or Mark ? I guess it was you who added my myspace to Yours ? right ? I think you don't may over-react to your current situation .. Too many pc users and broadcasters Vista is known as not the best system to install software ... and the next Win platform stands already in front of Us ... Windows 7 gonna be released in some Months - I guess June-July 2009 Whatever software is being used to make a broadcast it sounds strange and true ... but sometimes older or "old" Win platforms are working out very well Concerning my own SAM at home it runs on XP, that one of my project is running at Windows Server2003 I know friends of Me at The Netherlands who are running a popular webradio since more than 6 years and they use SAM on an old Win 98. Their system never collaps, never fails and its operational 24/7 .. for some unbelievable but true (except a reboot once every X-Months) An other friend of Me runs SAM on Win 2000 without any problems I'm sure you gonna find the right solution by sort out all ideas who are written by fellow members at BW, make a search into some BW directories and maybe you gonna find an answer to a part of what you are looking for. I am going to be building my own radio station from scratch which is 110% new to me, never done this sort of thing before I understand if you are just into broadcasting that a lot of things sounds as new to you .. but as Wayne (Owens) quoted .. he is willing to help you if you send him a PM .. so give it a go and maybe you gonna be very happy and satisfied with the results. Good Luck ! Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiZtah Posted April 28, 2009 Author Share Posted April 28, 2009 Yeah, that was me who added you, and either name is fine with me. I have been exchanging messages with Wayne already and I'm sure things will work out one way or another it's all a bit overwhelming for me right now because I have little knowledge of most of the things like mixers and items of a more advanced nature then what I have been used to using in the past. My deadline is sometime this fall to get it all together so with hard work and lots of time I think I will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Thanks thats great ! One of the BW members who can be most helpfull because of his technical knowledge is Carl Welden You can find a post of him at this link : http://forums.broadcastingworld.net/showthread.php?t=7652 read it and find out other posts made by Carl by visiting his profile This way you have already 2 of them 1 for the station and 1 for the equipment who can be used Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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