Gadfly Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Anybody else streaming using AAC encoding instead of Mp3? What's your experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 AAC+ is pretty much universally available on all platforms now. Desktop, laptop, tablet and smart phone. Relaxing Entertainment For The World - - www.ScenicRadio.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djgary72 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 When it comes to AAC+ i find the best Bitrate to stream at is 48kbps Stereo. It just sounds so good at that bitrate. I still prefer mp3 128k myself as AAC+ doesn't work with Flash that's the only downside. My Blog https://djgarybaldy.blogspot.com User of RadioDJ FREE radio playout software since 2010. How to Install RadioDJ: https://djgarybaldy.blogspot.com/2020/08/how-to-install-radiodj-free-radio.html RadioDJ is my FAVOURITE piece of software it works when I need It Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothJazz Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 You can still use AAC+ as your source encoder and have a flash player, just needs to be transcoded on the backend by your host. shoutcaststeaming.us does this very well. http://5280jazz.com/nowplaying_image/5280jazz.png Rob Oyler 5280 Jazz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboUK Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 We run a couple of streams using AAC+ at lower bitrate as we have a lot of listeners on Mobile Devices as we broadcast to London taxi Drivers while they are working, we have found the sound quality very good and it does not buffer as much when moving around as taxi drivers do. The sound quality is a lot better than a comparable MP3 stream at lower bitrates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadfly Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 When it comes to AAC+ i find the best Bitrate to stream at is 48kbps Stereo. It just sounds so good at that bitrate. Have to agree with you Gary. 48k AAC sounds incredible, and at such a low bit-rate. I currently stream at 64k. You can still use AAC+ as your source encoder and have a flash player, just needs to be transcoded on the backend by your host. shoutcaststeaming.us does this very well. I would love to be able to use a flash player but I'm on a free server. However, if the listener has VLC installed on their PC then I can copy & paste the player and then it works fine. We run a couple of streams using AAC+ at lower bitrate as we have a lot of listeners on Mobile Devices as we broadcast to London taxi Drivers while they are working, we have found the sound quality very good and it does not buffer as much when moving around as taxi drivers do. The sound quality is a lot better than a comparable MP3 stream at lower bitrates Can listeners listen to your AAC on Android on their smartphones too? I had to set up a Mp3 link to accomodate same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think Flash has reached its peak and will slowly make way for other technology. HTML 5, security breaches and lack of support for various operating systems are some of the problems that plague it's continued use. Relaxing Entertainment For The World - - www.ScenicRadio.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboUK Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Can listeners listen to your AAC on Android on their smartphones too? I had to set up a Mp3 link to accomodate same. Yes mate on Android phones they can as they support flash but most of our listeners listen Via TuneIn Radio but we will also have our own iPhone and Android Apps very soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKIye Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well ... I love still to use a very basic but stable flash player that I ever "found" at the internet and I made a script behind the http details, where users can change the volume, color buttons, color skin, color volume setting etc Check the (small) screenshot of the player My point of view is : That the better and cooler a flashplayer (for http streaming) looks, the more bugs it can have With my small simple flashplayer, I never have bugs and access is possible at all time The only thing who has to be done is the add of ;stream?nsv&type=mp3 (most of You know this) : [TABLE] [TR] [TD=class: webkit-line-content] width="300" [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: webkit-line-number][/TD] [TD=class: webkit-line-content] height="20" [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: webkit-line-number][/TD] [TD=class: webkit-line-content] allowfullscreen="false" [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: webkit-line-number][/TD] [TD=class: webkit-line-content] allowscriptaccess="always" [/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: webkit-line-number][/TD] [TD=class: webkit-line-content] flashvars="file=http://uk3-vn.mixstream.net:11110/;stream.nsv&type=mp3&volume=25&autostart=true&showstreamname[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] and its up and running In this basic flashplayer pack there is one file who isn't in any other pack I ever had a contact of Romania who made Me a javascript who keeps it stable at all time If You wanna use video clips, easily increase the height and width ... Its all that simple Concerning software to create flashplayers, code and skins, make a search for "Sothink Video Encoder for Adobe Flash" After generating any content, just change the flashvars in the script, adjust width and height ... and You can have the coolest skins Visit and listen @ BW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfirehosting Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 When it comes to AAC+ i find the best Bitrate to stream at is 48kbps Stereo. It just sounds so good at that bitrate. I still prefer mp3 128k myself as AAC+ doesn't work with Flash that's the only downside. Well Gary you are wrong, If you stream using Icecast-KH we have aac+ supported flashplayers. Kris Owner CrossFire-Hosting.com 800-589-3156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr08 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well Gary you are wrong, If you stream using Icecast-KH we have aac+ supported flashplayers...... email Kris@crossfire-hosting.com for more info. Kris This. If you even have just modest Googling skills, it isn't hard at all to figure out. It -does- require the KH version of Icecast as noted. Basically just stock Icecast but adds a handful of useful features such as this. If you do not do your own stream hosting (I do), check with your host and see if they run or offer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossfirehosting Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 This. If you even have just modest Googling skills, it isn't hard at all to figure out. It -does- require the KH version of Icecast as noted. Basically just stock Icecast but adds a handful of useful features such as this. If you do not do your own stream hosting (I do), check with your host and see if they run or offer it. Yea totally if its not -KH then yes it is hard to find a flash player that does support it. Kris Owner CrossFire-Hosting.com 800-589-3156 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjay Cruz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 we have RadioBox AAC flash playe check this out http://whooshstream.com/page/radiobox.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Arjay, what he was saying there (In January) is that if the server type isnt KH (in reference to Karl Heyes trunk Icecast), it is hard to find a flash player that supports AAC+. I concur. If it does support SHOUTcast, a demo is in order. KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoutcaststreaming Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Most have to be transcoded with a Wowza server. SCS - Dedicated Bandwidth Servers Shoutcast / Icecast / Windows Media Transcoding - Auto DJ - Mobile Radio - FLASH Players - Auto DJ Broadcasting World's Stream Host of the Month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolo22 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 My Experience With This AAC+ Codec Is The Better Sound Quality Than MP3, Like This. If you stream at 64 or Lower Still Sounds Great Just Like a 128k or 96k MP3, I Found a radio station On Tunein Radio That was broadcasting on a 26 KBPS AAC+ And Still Sounds Great. That's Why Digital Radio's Like HD Radio, DRM, DAB+ and FMeXtra Prefer AAC+ As Their Codec Because of the Good Sound Quality. Visit My Website http://abnradiofm.tk/ ABN Radio FM, ABN Radio AM and ABN Radio TV 2013. http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/zy8p1f-4.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutish Sailor Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 You can technically get great better quality with 128 Mp3, AAC+ stereo (even at 48/64 KBPS) misses A tiny bit of high that 128 stereo MP3 carries. Lows are perfect. You cant tell with computer speakers though, only headphones that range high and low enough It is possible to pump up AAC+, but it wasn't designed for large bitrates, and I'm sure your going to hear noise in the silence running 96kbps. Maybe not "generated silence", but dead air you will, more than Mp3. Compare side by side, you will see what I mean. 48kbps stereo AAC+ 44.1: http://www.loudcity.com/stations/beat-transit/files/show/aacpflash.html 128 kbps stereo 44.1 Mp3: http://www.loudcity.com/stations/beat-transit KNSJ.org / 89.1 FM San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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