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Is there a free live remote broadcasting software app out there? What I am talking about is something like running a radio station on broadcast software and have the station unattended and say bad weather breaks out and have a way to remotely "live" give updates from your home via computer through the internet. There is a commercial app called Audio Compass P2P, that is something like what I am talking about. I recently ran across RadioDJ, but it does not seem to have that in it at the moment.
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Search online for Tight VNC, its free VNC software which can allow you to use a computer remotely, theoretically this means no matter what playout system you are using you should be able to email the audio across then log on as if your using that computer and import it

http://www.immenseradio.com - Non Stop Dance

http://www.immenselive.com - Just Great Music and the home of two top 10 @ 10's a day!

http://www.stationguru.com - The ultimate radio resource website

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Sounds like a standard radio station setup to me. Using ShoutCAST with sc_trans or Icecast with Ices0 or something along those lines. ShoutCAST and Icecast are both free. Although ShoutCAST v2 does require a one time $5 license fee (I think it was $5 anyway) if you are going to broadcast in mp3.

 

I have setup a number of stations using ShoutCAST with sc_trans. Then I use LunarCaster DJ to connect to them remotely for live shows.

 

Edit: Unless I have completely missunderstood what you want.

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Well what we do at immense is have a spare server with just a couple of slots which the playout can connect to, so we just simply use the VNC to control when it takes the feed from the live server

http://www.immenseradio.com - Non Stop Dance

http://www.immenselive.com - Just Great Music and the home of two top 10 @ 10's a day!

http://www.stationguru.com - The ultimate radio resource website

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Sounds like a standard radio station setup to me. Using ShoutCAST with sc_trans or Icecast with Ices0 or something along those lines. ShoutCAST and Icecast are both free. Although ShoutCAST v2 does require a one time $5 license fee (I think it was $5 anyway) if you are going to broadcast in mp3.

 

I have setup a number of stations using ShoutCAST with sc_trans. Then I use LunarCaster DJ to connect to them remotely for live shows.

 

Edit: Unless I have completely missunderstood what you want.

 

So, does the above setup give you "live" remote feed to your radio station to go live over the air? Or is it delayed any?

 

You are correct...I am talking about a standard radio station and being able to send some kind of a live feed to go live over the air from say my home. Your suggestions sound great! I will check into them.

 

 

Thanks!

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Well what we do at immense is have a spare server with just a couple of slots which the playout can connect to, so we just simply use the VNC to control when it takes the feed from the live server

 

But how to you get your remote live feed to your server? And what end software are you using on your server?

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So, does the above setup give you "live" remote feed to your radio station to go live over the air? Or is it delayed any?

 

You are correct...I am talking about a standard radio station and being able to send some kind of a live feed to go live over the air from say my home. Your suggestions sound great! I will check into them.

 

 

Thanks!

 

Yes, the ShoutCAST with sc_trans setup does allow for live remote feeds. There is a little delay due to buffering on the server (ours is normally a max of 30 seconds between server and listeners player puffers combined, but can be less) but, that is to be expected. It works like this:

 

ShoutCAST is the actual broadcast software. sc_trans is a transcoder with a lot of configuration options and can be set up with playlists for playing music stored on the server and transmitting it to ShoutCAST. Different playlists can be set up to play at different times and shuffled so that they aren't always played in the same order. It also allows you to setup DJ's with their own usernames and passwords for connecting to sc_trans. If sc_trans receives an external connection from a DJ, it will fade out the current song it is playing and pause it. It then forwards the DJs audio stream to ShoutCAST. When the DJ disconnects, sc_trans then picks up where it left off by un-pausing the song it was playing before and fading it back in and continuing on with whatever playlist it is scheduled to be playing.

 

Your listeners connect to the ShoutCAST stream via whatever player they are using and they hear whatever sc_trans is playing. When a DJ connects, they will hear the music fade out and the DJ come on air.

 

There are a number of programs available for DJs to use for this purpose. I use LunarCaster DJ because, well, I wrote it. ;)

 

It all depends on what kind of set up you are using currently though as to how well something like this would work for you.

 

Hope that helps some.

 

http://www.lunarcaster.com

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I never knew you could do that with sc_trans but I presume most streaming providers don't allow this to be edited? My method does have the ability to immediately bring in the live stream or schedule the live stream but it is important to remember the live stream will have the inevitable delay but a song with a long intro can hide that then do the top of hour after that song lol.

http://www.immenseradio.com - Non Stop Dance

http://www.immenselive.com - Just Great Music and the home of two top 10 @ 10's a day!

http://www.stationguru.com - The ultimate radio resource website

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sc_trans can actually do a lot more than what I have mentioned so far. Setting up various playlists to run in blocks so you can have different genres playing at different times of the day, create a playlist with TOTH messages and set them to run at TOTH, 15 minutes past the hour etc. Not having to give out the ShoutCAST password to all your DJs is also great. Each DJ gets his/her own login:password and if that DJ leaves the radio for good, just remove him/her from the list. No need to keep changing your ShoutCAST password every time you have problems with one DJ. Each DJ can have a different priority, so admins can be given a higher priority than regular DJs for example. This allows them to take over the broadcast if there is a need.

 

There is also an api that can be polled for information and to send commands like NEXT to skip to the next song. I can't remember all of the options right now, but I really like it.

 

If you check http://www.bluemoon-radio.de, you will see at the top left a block where you can select a player etc. There is an image on the left side of that block that displays the on air DJ. This is an ajax dynamic display. It polls the sc_trans api to get information on what kind of event is currently playing (playlist, DJ or Relay). It then grabs an image with the same name as the event name and displays it. So if a DJ named PapaBearPW is connected, it will look for an image called PapaBearPW.gif and display it there. If it's a playlist (auto dj) named 80s, it will look for an image called 80s.gif etc.

 

I'm not sure what streaming providers allow for that. I use a vhost with root access and also have used dedicated servers. I have never used a streaming provider.

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Hello everyone,

well this is my first post in this forum.

I had my own web radio for around 2 years but it didn't go so well (hopefully i will be up with something new soon...) Anyway i only used open source software to set it up. Now, if i was to built up a new web radio i would go with

Airtime (by sourcefabric - http://www.sourcefabric.org/en/airtime/ ) for the automation &

idjc (by Stephen Fairchild - http://idjc.sourceforge.net/ ) to broadcast to the server or

mixxx (by .... ok too many to mention (check contact) - http://www.mixxx.org/ ) to broadcast to the server

Again, this is all open source and work in Linux.

p.s. in idjc you may put a skype call over the broadcast if you like :thumbup:

p.s. 2, maybe this is not the right thread but does anyone know of a collaborative web radio or a place to ask for partners (amateur not professional ones)

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PapaBearPW,

 

Well, I went through all the steps setting up a Shoutcast server (expect getting the authhash thingy) because it says if you are just setting up a private one you don't need one for private. Anyways, All the stuff I can find about setting one up shows how to do a playlist of music...I'm not wanting any music at all. I just want to do a live stream from my home computer with an attached microphone and just talk only. You got any specific instructions for doing that?

 

I connected directly to my home pc using my IP:port and it shows a connection and a Shoutcast web page and has an admin login, but rest of the page is just blank.

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Hi,

 

If you are seeing the ShoutCAST page when you enter localhost:8000 for example (assuming you are running it on your local machine and using port 8000), then the server is running and all you need to do is connect to it with a source client (i.e. LunarCaster DJ) and start streaming.

 

P.S. - As I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to accomplish, I am unsure what advice to give you. Running a streaming server on your home PC brings a list of possible issues to deal with. It's normally better to go with a remote hosting provider (either a streaming provider or vhost or dedicated server) if you are trying to reach a larger audience. I wouldn't recommend running it local unless your audience is almost entirely within you own LAN or your upstream bandwidth is very high.

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Hi,

 

If you are seeing the ShoutCAST page when you enter localhost:8000 for example (assuming you are running it on your local machine and using port 8000), then the server is running and all you need to do is connect to it with a source client (i.e. LunarCaster DJ) and start streaming.

 

P.S. - As I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to accomplish, I am unsure what advice to give you. Running a streaming server on your home PC brings a list of possible issues to deal with. It's normally better to go with a remote hosting provider (either a streaming provider or vhost or dedicated server) if you are trying to reach a larger audience. I wouldn't recommend running it local unless your audience is almost entirely within you own LAN or your upstream bandwidth is very high.

 

 

I have my on-air computer running doing full automation at my radio station, certain hours of the day, using the old automation program BSI Wavestation 3.0.60. What I am trying to accomplish is during the times of full automation or say during the night if we had severe weather move into our area I would like to be able to remotely log into my Wavestation computer and stop it (which I can do already) and then be able to stream a live feed from my house to that computer to go out over the air live...to give severe weather updates.

 

So, I want to be able to talk live into a microphone on my home computer and stream that live to my on-air computer at my radio station to give live updates out over the air.

 

Does that explain it well enough? I know what I want to do, but sometimes getting that all into text is a different story...lol!

 

Thanks for all of your help so far...it has been great! This is just a path I've never been down before and having to learn as I go.

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Ok, so I think I did misunderstand somewhat. Anyway, you can still get it done using a shoutcast or icecast server setup on your radio computer and using a source client to connect to it from home. But you would need to use VNC as stevo87 mentioned. This would be needed to allow you to start a player on your radio PC that would play the shoutcast/icecast stream.

 

So, basically you would be using the stream server merely as a method to get your audio stream to your radio. But without a player of some kind (i.e. winamp or VLC) you wouldn't actually hear the audio on your radio pc. You need some way of playing the stream on the radio pc.

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Ok, so I think I did misunderstand somewhat. Anyway, you can still get it done using a shoutcast or icecast server setup on your radio computer and using a source client to connect to it from home. But you would need to use VNC as stevo87 mentioned. This would be needed to allow you to start a player on your radio PC that would play the shoutcast/icecast stream.

 

So, basically you would be using the stream server merely as a method to get your audio stream to your radio. But without a player of some kind (i.e. winamp or VLC) you wouldn't actually hear the audio on your radio pc. You need some way of playing the stream on the radio pc.

 

Thanks for the reply. So, the server part will have to run on my on-air computer at my radio station then, not at my home?

 

I will have to play around with this and see if I can get this working :)

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The server would not have to run on your on-air computer, but I think it would be the best way to go.

 

Good luck.

 

Well, I guess what I meant is the server would run on the on-air computer versus my home computer. The server needs to be running at the radio station basically on a computer that has on-air access?

 

Would there be any different directions to set this up other than setting up a regular shoutcast or icecast server?

 

I read through a good bit on Icecast and I like what I read, but when I downloaded it and tried to install it, Windows will not let it install. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit on my home pc and the prompt I get is that is the wrong version. But from what I have read it is suppose to install/run on 32 bit or 64 bit. Guess I will try it on my 32 bit Windows XP on-air pc and see.

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I think Icecast binaries for windows are 32bit only, but should be able to be installed on 64bit windows as well and installed to your program files (x86) directory.

 

I will check it out when I get home from the office and see if I can get it to install that way and see exactly what error it was giving me.

 

Thanks!

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OK, I got Icecast and BUTT (Broadcast Using This Tool) installed and working on one Win 7 64 bit pc, but I am unable to remotely get to the stream so far.

 

When you setup an Icecast stream do people connect directly to that stream from that computer or does it go through another server somewhere?

 

i.e. if I set up an Icecast server on say my LAN and setup the server one PC #1 which has an ip of 192.168.1.100:8000. Then if I connect to that stream from PC #2 with an ip address of 192.168.1.101. Then is PC #2 connecting directly to PC #1 or does the server push that stream out to a server on the internet somewhere and then back to my PC #2?

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Icecast is a streaming server. It does not need to connect to any other server. It only needs a source (BUTT in your example) to connect to it. In your example, yes PC #2 would be connected directly to PC #1.

 

 

The idea was:

 

PC #1 (your Radio PC) running Icecast and a player to play the Icecast stream from that same PC.

PC #2 (your Home PC) running BUTT (or any other source software) to broadcast to the Icecast server on PC #1.

 

Of course you will still need to be able to stop the Playback of your radio software and start the player for the Icecast stream.

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