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Radionomy officially acquires Winamp - Shoutcast, along with some other nifty services. ;)

 

Adding Shoutcast to Radionomy’s existing assets will make the company one of the biggest players in the radio streaming business, hosting some 60,000 radio stations, or roughly half the online radio stations on the market today.

 

http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shoutcast-for-5-10m-to-radionomy-takes-12-stake-in-belgian-digital-audio-company/

 

Radionomy also recently acquired Target Spot audio ad network.

 

Radionomy (radionomy.com), one of the largest radio platforms for producers and broadcasters worldwide has combined with TargetSpot (TargetSpot.com), the leader in targeting and ad-serving in the U.S. digital audio market, to form the world's largest and most advanced digital audio advertising network. As part of the Radionomy Group, the combined ad network known as TargetSpot will extend monetization of TargetSpot and Radionomy customers worldwide and offer enhanced technology, new products, multi-platform inventory, and expanded sales.

 

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/radionomy-and-targetspot-form-worlds-largest-most-advanced-digital-audio-advertising-network-236060541.html

 

They now have the broadcasters, advertising resources and listeners to give Live365 a terrible migraine.

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And it's true and all official.

 

Press release sent to us a few mins ago:

http://www.broadcastingworld.net/features/view-57/

 

The winamp forums have been down for a while but they are back up with a notice from Radionomy and the top AOL bar removed, the TOS for the forums is now governed by Radionomy. I expect to see the shoutcast and winamp sites with no AOL branding next week.

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Best educated guess is that they will merge and cover royalties for broadcasters using Shoutcast.com but rather they will impose the 15 minute track limit remains to be seen. If they impose the track limit then its time for Progressive Rock stations to look at Icecast as an alternetive. If not (Like DjcMedia) then Shoutcast could be the way to go for hobbiyest broadcasters with a low budget. It could allow them to spend more money on higher quality Shoutcast servers if they can save the $31 in royalties. Lets see how this pans out but I'm betting on the fact they'll make Shoutcast just like their Radionomy app/site where you are covered for royalties. It will be good for the music industry I sure bet.

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According to this article, they want to help shoutcast producers to "monetize" their station… wait & see !

http://rainnews.com/more-on-radionomys-acquisition-of-shoutcast-and-winamp/

 

 

I used Radionomy and had over 130 hours a month or day but read the terms and conditions closely.

 

Radionomy can and will censor you according to their terms of use and it has happend to me personally.

 

http://www.radionomy.com/en/static/cgu

 

 

Read the above carefully they never had all these rules when they first started. I don't know how they are gonna control and censor shoutcast stations like Alex Jones and others. But from user experience they are bottom feeders feeding off of radio producers work.

 

Until Radionomy throws down the iron fist on the shoutcast producers IceCast is gonna be big in the end. Radionomy will run ads on your station and not pay you.

 

I am talking corporate ads not moms and pops shops. They are the ultimate bottom feeders of Internet Radio.

 

They have big money behind them yes but politics at it's best and bad servers and I used them for 3 years with server cuts everyday.

 

They will be the demise of Internet Radio if they buy up all the distribution outlets. Hopefully they can never buy out IceCast!

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Shoutcast still allows you to broadcast using your own server. I am guessing that Radionomy will allow you to " opt in " for monetized streaming, similar to adsense advertising on websites. If you use your own server, you probably will be responsible for royalty payments.

 

We will have to see what the official word is.

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I find it interesting how LoudCity announced closure just after Radionomy bought Shoutcast.com and Wineamp. The tide is turning so I bet Radionomy will have the Royalty coverage option for Shoutcast users. Otherwise you could continue to use Shoutcast and go with StreamLicensing as I have gone with. StreamLicensing is very easy to work with and they even allow you to create a .pls file to direct your listeners instead of giving them the .pls file from the server your broadcasting to. This allows you to edit your .pls file in case your server provider is not as good as you expected and you don't have to try and Email every directory you've submitted your station to and your listeners will be directed to the new server in a few mouse clicks. This is what makes StreamLicensing my #1 choice.

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I find it interesting how LoudCity announced closure just after Radionomy bought Shoutcast.com and Wineamp. The tide is turning so I bet Radionomy will have the Royalty coverage option for Shoutcast users.

 

Loudcity and Radionomy are two separate companies and situations. They happened in two separate months about 2 weeks apart. Nothing to do with each other.

 

StreamLicensing will continue to operate no matter what.

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this I knew but didn't communicate it well. What I was trying to communicate was that radionomy must have known prior to taking over Winamp and Shoutcast what was about to happen with LoudCIty. Many radio stations that are being taken over by other companies know what's about to happen with other radio stations and they act accordingly. This was what I was thinking may have happened with radionomy. Again this is just a theory but I find it very interesting.

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this I knew but didn't communicate it well. What I was trying to communicate was that radionomy must have known prior to taking over Winamp and Shoutcast what was about to happen with LoudCIty. Many radio stations that are being taken over by other companies know what's about to happen with other radio stations and they act accordingly. This was what I was thinking may have happened with radionomy. Again this is just a theory but I find it very interesting.

 

How would they have known? These are two multi million dollar companies (Radionomy and AOL) negotiating a multi-million dollar sale. Loudcity is still only quite a small operation. There is no way that they have communicated or even dealt with one another. I have spoken to Radionomy and AOL more than Loudcity has...

 

And if you think that Radionomy is going to inject ads to SHOUTcast streams, be realistic. They have no plans and have not announced anything similar to that.

 

Very much so a theory voodoohippy.

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I highly doubt Icecast will be bought out or go away anytime soon. It's important to remember that Icecast is open source and licensed under GNU's GPL license which means that conceivably a new owner could end the license for new versions, but older versions would remain available and developers can pick up the project or write software based on Nicecast as long as they don't sell it. Shoutcast's DNAS is the encoder and while may be free now it is not open source and the rules can change at any time without notice. Also remember that there is still Windows Media, Quicktime, and Real Server (not free). While these servers may not work with StreamLicensing now they could in the future.
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Very much so a theory voodoohippy.

 

Theories are just idle gossip!

 

I've looked at running a station on radionomy and then thought it was going to be too much like hard work far to many hoops to jump through. Not for me.

 

It's just going to be interesting to read the interview that James has got!

 

I know it's frustrating but wait for the official news before speculating eh??

 

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Gary, I agree, but a personal motto of mine is to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. I see it as being prudent to become more educated in options and alternatives in the event of some ugly changes like Shoutcast server becoming unavailable or not worth using happen. In that vain I signed up for a free Icecast hosting account so I can test in the event I want to switch or want to make a move for the richer features. On the week after Loud City blindsided a lot of us by suddenly announcing a shutdown in the words of that broadcaster from NYC Dan Ingram, the word of the day should be prudence.
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I believe this. This is what they are doing currently. Before it was just a useless Winamp ad on Shoutcast when AOL owned the joint. now they have all sorts of Corporate ads running before the stream starts, besides the winamp ad.

 

And it goes for any and all stations. Yeah. That means revenue is being generated somewhere, and if your station uses SL, you have to report revenue. So, they should be paying part of your licensing fees.

At anytime they decide to integrate Shoutcast with their current tools, will be the end of shoutcast. Now, although many listeners are obtained through other means ( even though a stream is listed on Shoutcast), this still is a major directory. Radionomy as it is now, can't hold a stick to Shoutcast. It's as if it were created by a hobbyist.

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@Urban, If Radionomy or any other entity starts inserting commercials in my stream without my permission, they will be hearing from my attorney. I use a Shoutcast hosting service which is the extent of my involvement with Shoutcast now owned by Radionomy. There is nothing in my TOS which says they can use my broadcast without my knowledge. Live365 for example has a draconian TOS for hobbyists and small broadcasters. No commercials, they can add commercials to your broadcast, and if I read the TOS correctly pretty much can do anything they want with your broadcasts. Further with L365 you cannot run any shows you run on 365 anywhere else. Edited by njtreker
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