Dedicated server recommendation

[Najat]

Hi

 

I am shopping for a powerful dedicated server that can handle up to several tens of thousands of listeners without having to worry about buffering and bandwidth, which company would you recommend? I plan on purchasing the centova license full payment once and for all, the less burden the better.

[BWorld]

For several tens of thousands of listeners, you will want many dedicated servers clustered. I'd look for a collocation center personally. Choopa.com, LiquidWeb, SoftLayer are all good hosts I've used.

[shoutcaststreaming]

Check us out:

https://www.shoutcaststreaming.us/index.php/pricing-tables/dedicated-servers/

 

We can get you a 1 Gig link istead of a 100 meg link, which will allow you 7,280 concurrent listeners at 128k. That way you need only 1 server, unless you want many thousands of listeners.

[busby]

Hi

 

I am shopping for a powerful dedicated server that can handle up to several tens of thousands of listeners without having to worry about buffering and bandwidth, which company would you recommend? I plan on purchasing the centova license full payment once and for all, the less burden the better.

 

Try OVH or online.net - I have servers from both companies and they will have something to meet your needs..

[HostAG]

I think you need a dedicated server with a strong bandwidth that allows for bursts in case you encounter spikes. When buying the dedicated server, look for providers that offer you the internet bandwidth calculated at 95% ( which means you only pay for the speed that your server used for 95% of the time, meaning if you encounter spikes that go over the bandwidth speed you bought, they are not charged). Also if I were you I would look for a private dedicated cloud that allows you to scale your solution in case you experience sudden growth. Good luck.

[Heyes]

HiI am shopping for a powerful dedicated server that can handle up to several tens of thousands of listeners without having to worry about buffering and bandwidth, which company would you recommend? I plan on purchasing the centova license full payment once and for all, the less burden the better.

A sufficiently powerful server is straightforward, and available from many providers - but the bandwidth/transfer is less-so... 'Several tens of thousands of listeners' requires a 10Gbps port (which should be able to comfortably serve 50k concurrent users), and (as previously mentioned by another) preferably with several load-balanced (rather than a single) servers.Many providers aren't setup for this, and some who are prefer clients who'll use less than their advertised allocation.Also, small print T&C often doesn't align with the headlines, and it's easy to find that you're not getting what you expect... a port speed may be a max rather than 'always', and bandwidth may be capped (and subject to additional charges which can range from $1-20+ per TB).To the existing suggestions, I'll add 100tb.com and 10gbps.io.Be sure to clarify with a provider what exactly you'll be getting.If your listeners are geographically diverse, it's worth considering using a series of independent servers - each of which is geographically nearer to your users than a single global server. Edited February 20, 2017 by Heyes

[shoutcaststreaming]

A 10 Gig port can handle 70,000 plus concurrent listeners at 128 kbps 24 / 7.

 

Not very easy to get a 10 Gig port and if you do it, probably won't be unlimited, but capped.

 

But I really don't know many stations that get 50,000+ listeners.

[Najat]

Thanks everyone for your answers, I have been looking at all the links and websites of providers and found the prices absolutely ridiculous, with some having plans for 750$/month, I am not renting a house, I am renting a stupid server that takes about 50 com rack.

Anyway, my new approach now is to buy one and settle it myself, at some point those stupid providers will understand thry have to make sense before they go out of business.

Thanks again.

[Heyes]

Thanks everyone for your answers, I have been looking at all the links and websites of providers and found the prices absolutely ridiculous, with some having plans for 750$/month, I am not renting a house, I am renting a stupid server that takes about 50 com rack. Anyway, my new approach now is to buy one and settle it myself, at some point those stupid providers will understand thry have to make sense before they go out of business. Thanks again.

$750 is low for server/port speed/traffic of the required capacity.'Buy one' won't be a fix - the major element of cost is likely to be traffic.As has been suggested, that level of traffic is rare - and unlikely to happen initially.With that in mind,, it'll be wise to start small and progressively increase capacity as demand requires.The earlier suggestion (from shoutcaststreaming)... '1 Gig link, which will allow you 7,280 concurrent listeners' is a relatively inexpensive way to begin... with an appropriately high port speed, and bandwidth limited to (if my math is correct) the equivalent of 700 slots to be listened to 'all day, every day'). And an option, to enable 7000 listeners 'all day, every day' for an additional $450.

[Najat]

saying that buying one wont buying a fix ios like telling someomne that buying a house wont fix his rent. So let's look at it this way, traffic and bandwidth all of those parameters are controlled by either services or machines you can buy, and I am pretty sure those companies themsleves actually are either third or even fourth party providers to practice such high prices.

As for working it up, again no body bad surprises so you have a decent planning because if you end up with an invocie 10 times what was expected , you're dead., plus seeing how greedy these comanies are it wouldmt surprise me if they actually fake your traffic results so they can blow up your $$ to pay.

Anyone thanks again everyone obviously that would be a lucrative business for people who have time.

[shoutcaststreaming]

it wouldmt surprise me if they actually fake your traffic results so they can blow up your $$ to pay.

I really take exception to that remark. It just shows you have no real knowledge of the world. To fake bandwidth statistics would be extremely difficult and put a company out of business is short order if caught.

 

You get what you pay for. If you go to a Data Center you are going to the actual provider. There are wide differences in prices for Data Centers.

 

It just shows that you have no experience with Dedicated Servers.

 

[robert4u]

For several tens of thousands of listeners, you will want many dedicated servers clustered. I'd look for a collocation center personally. Choopa.com, LiquidWeb, SoftLayer are all good hosts I've used.

 

Another option is cloud hosting, you can use cloud to scale, digitalocean, worldstream, linode are some options.

[Braja]

One of our stations covered live a concert and had 11000 listeners peak. No problem whatsoever.

[GKIye]

Dear Najat,

 

Please don't call fellow BW members "stupid providers".

They have all a longtime business, and they give answers to your question who was made into your main topic.

If you don't agree with their proposal you can contact them to ask more details about your project.

 

So please be and stay friendly !

Thanks everyone for your answers, I have been looking at all the links and websites of providers and found the prices absolutely ridiculous, with some having plans for 750$/month, I am not renting a house, I am renting a stupid server that takes about 50 com rack.

Anyway, my new approach now is to buy one and settle it myself, at some point those stupid providers will understand thry have to make sense before they go out of business.

Thanks again.

[Matt Skills]

I would say that if you have 10's of thousands of listeners then you are more than capable of generating enough commercial interest to cover your server costs. Just remember that if you are going to purchase your own server you are still going to need to pay for rack space in a data center or hire a leased line from an ISP that can provide enough bandwidth to cover what you need which is probably going to still put you at the same price as renting a dedicated server.

 

other factors to consider in having your own server are maintenance costs and power consumption + are you always going to be around to put your server back online in the event of an outage (if you're renting rack space and your server goes offline, you're going to need to visit the datacenter yourself to fix it or pay technician to do it for you )

 

I'm doubtful that this is a serious post given that you think $750 is too much for a dedicated server and the fact that you don't currently have a way to facilitate 10's of thousands of listeners makes me think you don't have 10's of thousands of listeners, but that's my input lol

[shoutcaststreaming]

I'm doubtful that this is a serious post given that you think $750 is too much for a dedicated server and the fact that you don't currently have a way to facilitate 10's of thousands of listeners makes me think you don't have 10's of thousands of listeners, but that's my input lol

Good point. I fully agree with you.

 

[GKIye]

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[Guest ayandre92]

I use Siteground as a dedicated server and am very pleased with the quality, service, capacity and speed. Edited December 8, 2020 by GKIye
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[Guest Densimo]

Thanks for the recommendations on choosing a dedicated server, they helped me a lot. I am currently setting up such a VPN so that everything works as expected. Edited July 29, 2021 by Densimo

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