James Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 How do you see internet radio evolving? Do you see a future or will it die down like podcasting? Lets hear some opinions Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 How do you see internet radio evolving? Do you see a future or will it die down like podcasting? Lets hear some opinions Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmouthstudio Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 How do you see internet radio evolving? Do you see a future or will it die down like podcasting?James, Very Interesting Question... I would have thought by now that AM radio would be dead, but for some reason it keeps hanging on. Sat Radio is having problems because of the high cost and lets face it radio should be free. If the RIAA has its way, then all netcasters will have to pay and big time. I think that the most important question for netcasters is how to make money to keep there streams alive? Listeners will no longer sit through a 3-7 min stopset of spots. So how do you make money off your stream to keep it alive. I think one of the best netcasters is at SmoothJazz.com, they have partnered with a retail outlet so their listeners can purchase the music that they are listening too. Then there is the wine club, were listeners can become a member and get wine delivered to there door. So they don't really play spots but rather show value to there listeners through promo's, trade for mention and sponsorships. Could this be the new revenue stream for netcasters? Perhaps.. Very interesting in deed! Just my .02 cents worth.... Kindest Regards, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmouthstudio Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 How do you see internet radio evolving? Do you see a future or will it die down like podcasting?James, Very Interesting Question... I would have thought by now that AM radio would be dead, but for some reason it keeps hanging on. Sat Radio is having problems because of the high cost and lets face it radio should be free. If the RIAA has its way, then all netcasters will have to pay and big time. I think that the most important question for netcasters is how to make money to keep there streams alive? Listeners will no longer sit through a 3-7 min stopset of spots. So how do you make money off your stream to keep it alive. I think one of the best netcasters is at SmoothJazz.com, they have partnered with a retail outlet so their listeners can purchase the music that they are listening too. Then there is the wine club, were listeners can become a member and get wine delivered to there door. So they don't really play spots but rather show value to there listeners through promo's, trade for mention and sponsorships. Could this be the new revenue stream for netcasters? Perhaps.. Very interesting in deed! Just my .02 cents worth.... Kindest Regards, Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Wow great tips there.. and if the RIAA dont keep jacking up the price, i think that may just be the way to go! Nobody can afford to stream 24/7 and pay for it, so there has to be another way and i think your way may be it! any other opinions? Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Wow great tips there.. and if the RIAA dont keep jacking up the price, i think that may just be the way to go! Nobody can afford to stream 24/7 and pay for it, so there has to be another way and i think your way may be it! any other opinions? Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Radio Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I think it has a great future (licensing and royalties aside). I wonder how many stations out there are really focussed on trying to make money? My impression is that the many stations are hobbyists and enthusiasts trying to create something different, something they personally enjoy and, often, non-commercial. The costs are not trivial but many people seem prepared to spend money on their passion without the promise of a return on investment - like most people with hobbies and expensive private interests I guess. Its not wrong to try to claw back some costs through advertising, promotion etc but its obviously a struggle. In my experience, people seem to do this as an after-thought or if their stations become more popular than anticipated and they want to improve the quality, number of streams etc. As an aside, has podcasting died down significantly? Its not getting the exposure it once did, like blogging etc, but there still being produced and listened to in greater numbers than ever.* *http://www.universalmccann.com/Assets/2413%20-%20Wave%203%20complete%20document%20AW%203_20080418124523.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Radio Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 I think it has a great future (licensing and royalties aside). I wonder how many stations out there are really focussed on trying to make money? My impression is that the many stations are hobbyists and enthusiasts trying to create something different, something they personally enjoy and, often, non-commercial. The costs are not trivial but many people seem prepared to spend money on their passion without the promise of a return on investment - like most people with hobbies and expensive private interests I guess. Its not wrong to try to claw back some costs through advertising, promotion etc but its obviously a struggle. In my experience, people seem to do this as an after-thought or if their stations become more popular than anticipated and they want to improve the quality, number of streams etc. As an aside, has podcasting died down significantly? Its not getting the exposure it once did, like blogging etc, but there still being produced and listened to in greater numbers than ever.* *http://www.universalmccann.com/Assets/2413%20-%20Wave%203%20complete%20document%20AW%203_20080418124523.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Hey and welcome 1Radio I am guessing in my opinion that radio is one of the most common uses on the internet. I have to say most radio stations in the world (FM stations) have live internet streams. I know for one that i listen to internet radio when in the airport, school, work it really is great to get coverage from anywhere in the world. I think you are right about hobby broadcasters, the ones out there making money are either big companys or people with a low income. I think its fine asking for donations or selling off advertisements, its fine doing it to keep the station alive or to run some competitions. And podcasting has died down, with the big companys, the smaller podcasters are shutting down. But that doesnt mean people dont listen to them, this is why itunes is still going strong even though many people hate using it. -James Be sure to introduce yourself Radio1 Enjoy BW Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted June 17, 2008 Author Share Posted June 17, 2008 Hey and welcome 1Radio I am guessing in my opinion that radio is one of the most common uses on the internet. I have to say most radio stations in the world (FM stations) have live internet streams. I know for one that i listen to internet radio when in the airport, school, work it really is great to get coverage from anywhere in the world. I think you are right about hobby broadcasters, the ones out there making money are either big companys or people with a low income. I think its fine asking for donations or selling off advertisements, its fine doing it to keep the station alive or to run some competitions. And podcasting has died down, with the big companys, the smaller podcasters are shutting down. But that doesnt mean people dont listen to them, this is why itunes is still going strong even though many people hate using it. -James Be sure to introduce yourself Radio1 Enjoy BW Studiio - All-In-One Radio Communication Platform SMS | Phone Calls | Social Media | Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADcHATTER Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Lets look at some number shall we? I have been following the Bridge Ratings for Internet Radio for about 3 years now and their estimates have always been the closest. Their latest estimates place Internet Radio listeners in the US alone at around 31% by the end of 2008 and 38% by 2010. Internet radio continues to show the most significant growth of monthly users of those media covered in this analysis. At the conclusion of 2006, they estimated that 24% of the U.S. population or 72 million Americans listened to on-line radio in the previous 30 days. In this newest update of the report 25% have listened in the previous 30 days. Weekly listening has also climbed with 19% of the sample listening to some form of Internet radio in the previous 7 days up to 57 million per week. Taking into account recent changes in the US economy and with gasoline prices rising, that number could reach even higher as people travel less and, as such, will cut down on the amount of FM radio time they listen to. Although by all accounts the use of CD/iPod or Cellphone/Internet Radio use in cars has shown a steadier than expected growth. Despite popular wisdom, in-car media use still heavily favors traditional radio with three-quarters of the sample indicating that it is their preferred device in that environment. The next-closest device, the cell-phone continues to see a rise in preference with nearly 25% of the sample stating such. MP3 players continue to gain as well. The current estimate for Internet Radio listeners worldwide is over 250 million and growing since not all countries track the trend. Satellite Radio subscriptions have grown at a smaller pace with Sirius and XM gaining only 3.1% and 1.6%. HD radio growth has been absolutely dismal and well below the projections put forth by the fledgling HD Radio industry. Terrestrial Radio (AM/FM) listenership is down significantly. By over 61% since 2004. Internet Radio is rapidly gaining on AM/FM and should either directly compete with, or exceed Terrstrial Radio's marketshare by 2012. When you consider the explosive growth of Internet Radio listenership and the fact that 78% of stations online do NOT collect advertising revenues of any kind the choices available to internet users are unparalleled as compared with any other medium which does. Niche programming and variety programming being the most predominant of genre's out there. Is it any wonder the Labels, RIAA and AM/FM radio want to eradicate Internet Radio? Internet Radio is the uncontrollable medium and directly threatens the labels control structure. Through their use of Payola and other "Incentive" methods they can control AM/FM and others. There are simply too many Internet Stations willing to play for free what AM/FM no longer even puts on the air. The labels use these mediums to control the masses into thinking whats "Hip, Happening and Now" so they will spend their money on what they tell us to. Internet Radio offers more choices, alternatives and ways to enjoy music than any other medium before it. And it does it mainly commercial free! Hobbyists who seem to have a better understanding of what people want than any corporation will eventually win the day. Legally or not! thats my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADcHATTER Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Lets look at some number shall we? I have been following the Bridge Ratings for Internet Radio for about 3 years now and their estimates have always been the closest. Their latest estimates place Internet Radio listeners in the US alone at around 31% by the end of 2008 and 38% by 2010. Internet radio continues to show the most significant growth of monthly users of those media covered in this analysis. At the conclusion of 2006, they estimated that 24% of the U.S. population or 72 million Americans listened to on-line radio in the previous 30 days. In this newest update of the report 25% have listened in the previous 30 days. Weekly listening has also climbed with 19% of the sample listening to some form of Internet radio in the previous 7 days up to 57 million per week. Taking into account recent changes in the US economy and with gasoline prices rising, that number could reach even higher as people travel less and, as such, will cut down on the amount of FM radio time they listen to. Although by all accounts the use of CD/iPod or Cellphone/Internet Radio use in cars has shown a steadier than expected growth. Despite popular wisdom, in-car media use still heavily favors traditional radio with three-quarters of the sample indicating that it is their preferred device in that environment. The next-closest device, the cell-phone continues to see a rise in preference with nearly 25% of the sample stating such. MP3 players continue to gain as well. The current estimate for Internet Radio listeners worldwide is over 250 million and growing since not all countries track the trend. Satellite Radio subscriptions have grown at a smaller pace with Sirius and XM gaining only 3.1% and 1.6%. HD radio growth has been absolutely dismal and well below the projections put forth by the fledgling HD Radio industry. Terrestrial Radio (AM/FM) listenership is down significantly. By over 61% since 2004. Internet Radio is rapidly gaining on AM/FM and should either directly compete with, or exceed Terrstrial Radio's marketshare by 2012. When you consider the explosive growth of Internet Radio listenership and the fact that 78% of stations online do NOT collect advertising revenues of any kind the choices available to internet users are unparalleled as compared with any other medium which does. Niche programming and variety programming being the most predominant of genre's out there. Is it any wonder the Labels, RIAA and AM/FM radio want to eradicate Internet Radio? Internet Radio is the uncontrollable medium and directly threatens the labels control structure. Through their use of Payola and other "Incentive" methods they can control AM/FM and others. There are simply too many Internet Stations willing to play for free what AM/FM no longer even puts on the air. The labels use these mediums to control the masses into thinking whats "Hip, Happening and Now" so they will spend their money on what they tell us to. Internet Radio offers more choices, alternatives and ways to enjoy music than any other medium before it. And it does it mainly commercial free! Hobbyists who seem to have a better understanding of what people want than any corporation will eventually win the day. Legally or not! thats my opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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